[PRCo] Re: Where are you?

[Hwandrews1 at cs.com]

Detroit's downtown People Mover (or are we call it around here the mugger mover) was developed by Ford in the late 70's and is the only installation I know of.  It's a rubber wheeled vehicle on concrete roadway.  

Harold Geissenheimer <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net> wrote:

>Greetings
>YES.  Vancouver was developed by UTCD and used in Detroit and Toronto 
>(TTC uses a motorman)
>and in Malasia and now JFK airport.  Now a Bombardier product
> They are all steel wheel/steel rail systems with LIN power.
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>The list needs to learn more about automated systems.  Still too much
>hate Skybus there.  VAL in Lille is doing a big job well.  Over 100,000
>daily on each of two 13 station lines.
>
>Harold Geisenheimer
>
>John Swindler wrote:
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>>Isn't Vancouver a steel-rail system using linear induction motors??
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>>Was under the impression that Vancouver had the same technology as Toronto's 
>>Scarborough Line.
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>>John (never been there)
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>>>From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
>>>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Where are you?
>>>Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 00:07:45 -0600
>>>
>>>Variations of the Skybus concept work well - and have since as long ago as
>>>1974 - at Dallas-Ft. Worth and Tampa Airports, and later at airports in
>>>Newark and Chicago.  These applications are basically horizontal elevators,
>>>using 1960's technology to transport stand-up riders less than three miles,
>>>to a few stops, without an operator.  Unfortunately, in Pittsburgh from 
>>>1963
>>>to around 1975, the small Skybus vehicles were promoted as an alternative 
>>>to
>>>higher capacity light rail over distances of 15 miles where trips of 45
>>>minutes required a higher degree of passenger comfort.
>>>
>>>By the 1990's in Vancouver, engineers had figured out how to combine a
>>>higher capacity, longer distance system with auomated operation.
>>>
>>>Bob 2/23/04
>>>
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>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Harold Geissenheimer" <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
>>>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 1:10 PM
>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Where are you?
>>>
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>>>>Ed and others
>>>>Ed.  you are right.  Sky bus woirks well at many airports
>>>>
>>>>Tampa, Seattle, Orlando, Denver, Atlanta, Pgh,San Francisco, Frankfurt,
>>>>Miami
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>>>>and the downtown people mover in Miami (expanded several times)
>>>>
>>>>Westinghouse wanted Sky bus to create manufacturing jobs in Pgh.
>>>>
>>>>In fact they did.  Plant is in West Miflin.  Ownership went from
>>>>WElectric to
>>>>AEG Westinghouse to Adtrans to now Bombardier
>>>>
>>>>They did bring jobs to Pgh
>>>>
>>>>Harold Geissenheimer
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>>>>Edward H. Lybarger wrote:
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>>>>>But it works thoroughly well at a variety of airports I've visited!
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>>>RR
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