[PRCo] Re: Where are you?

[Harold Geissenheimer]

Greetings
The Detroit people mover is  a UTCD product.  It is steel wheel/rail
using LIM power.  Its the same as Vancouver, Toronto one line, JFK
airport and Malasia.

Did Ford build a second people mover?

Harold Geissenheimer

Hwandrews1 at cs.com wrote:

>Detroit's downtown People Mover (or are we call it around here the mugger mover) was developed by Ford in the late 70's and is the only installation I know of.  It's a rubber wheeled vehicle on concrete roadway.  
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>Harold Geissenheimer <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>Greetings
>>YES.  Vancouver was developed by UTCD and used in Detroit and Toronto 
>>(TTC uses a motorman)
>>and in Malasia and now JFK airport.  Now a Bombardier product
>>They are all steel wheel/steel rail systems with LIN power.
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>>The list needs to learn more about automated systems.  Still too much
>>hate Skybus there.  VAL in Lille is doing a big job well.  Over 100,000
>>daily on each of two 13 station lines.
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>>Harold Geisenheimer
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>>John Swindler wrote:
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>>>Isn't Vancouver a steel-rail system using linear induction motors??
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>>>Was under the impression that Vancouver had the same technology as Toronto's 
>>>Scarborough Line.
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>>>John (never been there)
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>>>>From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
>>>>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Where are you?
>>>>Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 00:07:45 -0600
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>>>>Variations of the Skybus concept work well - and have since as long ago as
>>>>1974 - at Dallas-Ft. Worth and Tampa Airports, and later at airports in
>>>>Newark and Chicago.  These applications are basically horizontal elevators,
>>>>using 1960's technology to transport stand-up riders less than three miles,
>>>>to a few stops, without an operator.  Unfortunately, in Pittsburgh from 
>>>>1963
>>>>to around 1975, the small Skybus vehicles were promoted as an alternative 
>>>>to
>>>>higher capacity light rail over distances of 15 miles where trips of 45
>>>>minutes required a higher degree of passenger comfort.
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>>>>By the 1990's in Vancouver, engineers had figured out how to combine a
>>>>higher capacity, longer distance system with auomated operation.
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>>>>Bob 2/23/04
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>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Harold Geissenheimer" <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
>>>>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 1:10 PM
>>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Where are you?
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>>>>>Ed and others
>>>>>Ed.  you are right.  Sky bus woirks well at many airports
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>>>>>Tampa, Seattle, Orlando, Denver, Atlanta, Pgh,San Francisco, Frankfurt,
>>>>>Miami
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>>>>>and the downtown people mover in Miami (expanded several times)
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>>>>>Westinghouse wanted Sky bus to create manufacturing jobs in Pgh.
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>>>>>In fact they did.  Plant is in West Miflin.  Ownership went from
>>>>>WElectric to
>>>>>AEG Westinghouse to Adtrans to now Bombardier
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>>>>>They did bring jobs to Pgh
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>>>>>Harold Geissenheimer
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>>>>>Edward H. Lybarger wrote:
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>>>>>>But it works thoroughly well at a variety of airports I've visited!
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>>>>RR
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