[PRCo] Re: Where are you?

[Hwandrews1 at cs.com]

Are you referring to the People Mover at the Detroit Airport or the one in the City that runs though the downtown area?

I know the one in the Downtown area was build by Ford in the late 70 - I have friends here at Ford who worked on the project.  One was built here in Dearborn as a 'proof of concept' and when the company build the Renaissance Center they also installed the People Mover.  

Howard Andrews


>Greetings
>The Detroit people mover is  a UTCD product.  It is steel wheel/rail
>using LIM power.  Its the same as Vancouver, Toronto one line, JFK
>airport and Malasia.
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>Did Ford build a second people mover?
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>Harold Geissenheimer
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>Hwandrews1 at cs.com wrote:
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>>Detroit's downtown People Mover (or are we call it around here the mugger mover) was developed by Ford in the late 70's and is the only installation I know of.  It's a rubber wheeled vehicle on concrete roadway.  
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>>Harold Geissenheimer <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>>>Greetings
>>>YES.  Vancouver was developed by UTCD and used in Detroit and Toronto 
>>>(TTC uses a motorman)
>>>and in Malasia and now JFK airport.  Now a Bombardier product
>>>They are all steel wheel/steel rail systems with LIN power.
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>>>The list needs to learn more about automated systems.  Still too much
>>>hate Skybus there.  VAL in Lille is doing a big job well.  Over 100,000
>>>daily on each of two 13 station lines.
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>>>Harold Geisenheimer
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>>>John Swindler wrote:
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>>>>Isn't Vancouver a steel-rail system using linear induction motors??
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>>>>Was under the impression that Vancouver had the same technology as Toronto's 
>>>>Scarborough Line.
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>>>>John (never been there)
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>>>>>From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
>>>>>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Where are you?
>>>>>Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 00:07:45 -0600
>>>>>
>>>>>Variations of the Skybus concept work well - and have since as long ago as
>>>>>1974 - at Dallas-Ft. Worth and Tampa Airports, and later at airports in
>>>>>Newark and Chicago.  These applications are basically horizontal elevators,
>>>>>using 1960's technology to transport stand-up riders less than three miles,
>>>>>to a few stops, without an operator.  Unfortunately, in Pittsburgh from 
>>>>>1963
>>>>>to around 1975, the small Skybus vehicles were promoted as an alternative 
>>>>>to
>>>>>higher capacity light rail over distances of 15 miles where trips of 45
>>>>>minutes required a higher degree of passenger comfort.
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>>>>>By the 1990's in Vancouver, engineers had figured out how to combine a
>>>>>higher capacity, longer distance system with auomated operation.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob 2/23/04
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>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Harold Geissenheimer" <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
>>>>>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 1:10 PM
>>>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Where are you?
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>>>>>>Ed and others
>>>>>>Ed.  you are right.  Sky bus woirks well at many airports
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>>>>>>Tampa, Seattle, Orlando, Denver, Atlanta, Pgh,San Francisco, Frankfurt,
>>>>>>Miami
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>>>>>>and the downtown people mover in Miami (expanded several times)
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>>>>>>Westinghouse wanted Sky bus to create manufacturing jobs in Pgh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In fact they did.  Plant is in West Miflin.  Ownership went from
>>>>>>WElectric to
>>>>>>AEG Westinghouse to Adtrans to now Bombardier
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They did bring jobs to Pgh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Harold Geissenheimer
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>>>>>>Edward H. Lybarger wrote:
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>>>>>>>But it works thoroughly well at a variety of airports I've visited!
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>>>>>RR
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