[PRCo] Re: Location?

[Harold Geissenheimer]

Fred
You miss the point.  In Buffalo, the steel mills closed.  In Toronto, the
banks moved from Montreal.  In Braddock and Rankin, the mills
closed..  Very bad sections in Paris, London and
Berlin

European cities still are livable.  So is north side Chicago. center city
Phila, Adams and Dupont Circle in Wash DC.

The problem is that some people fear change and diversity.

I go regulary into many neighborhoods in NY.  Went to brunch last
week in Williamsburg Brooklyn.  NY is very safe.  Good police.

Sorry Fred..I just dont agree.  Always common sense and stay
out of certain neighborhoos at night.

I was in downtown Allentown a few weeks ago and downtown was
latino and pretty dark

True that Canada is still good but Younge street is far from perfect.
I agree that Canadians have high standards and the recent Asian
increase will maintain  then.

Harold Geissenheimer

Fred Schneider wrote:

>Harold's point is well taken.  I agree with it.  And also saddening because it
>isn't like all cities.  But it is like many cities in the United States.  But
>why do I feel so much more comfortable in Canadian or European cities?  I can
>walk around Calgary or London at night in a suit without any fear at all.
>People tell me that East London or the Jamaican sections to the southwest of
>central London, England, are bad.  Maybe bad by their standards, but perhaps no
>worse than the better sections of our cities.  I've not felt uncomfortable
>anywhere in London in coat and tie, and with three cameras.  They still have
>cities where you can buy things, see shows, eat dinner.  Just look at the
>difference between Toronto and Buffalo ... day and night.
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>I worked as an program auditor for the state employment service back in the
>1980s.  I normally dressed in a suit or sports coat.  Even in Pittsburgh then.
>But when I went to Philadelphia, I took the oldest car in the fleet and dressed
>down ... way down ... sort of like I was working in my garden.  And the staff in
>our offices in Philly dressed down too.  Dressing up was simply saying, "Here's
>my wallet."  We had one office in West Philly with three armed guards ... one in
>the parking lot and two inside.  The two inside were unable or unwilling to
>stave off two muggings of employees in one year.
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>No Harold, I don't want to move to the city.  Not here.  I used to love the
>cities.  I would walk around Brooklyn or Homewood or North Philly in my youth
>with wreckless abandon.  Times have changed.  I'll still wander around Bern,
>Zurich, Paris, Lisbon, Milano, Munich, London, Toronto and I could enjoy living
>in those or similar cities.  But the United States has abandoned the concept of
>urban viability.   Americans spend a disproportionate amount of their income and
>energy trying to move away from people they feel are inferior.  I don't like it
>but I recognize it.
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>Harold Geissenheimer wrote:
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>>Fred
>>Is it really that bad?   In daylight?  While schools are in class?
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>>I drove along the East Busway last October on Sunday AM.
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>>Fred..you should move to the city.  Too much fear
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>>Like any city, dont carry visible cameras or dress high.
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>>Harold Geissenheimer
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>>Fred Schneider wrote:
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>>>Remember now, Mark, there are some neighborhoods that you really don't want
>>>to enter without the 82nd Airborne Division in your car for protection.  A
>>>lot of places that I used to be taken as a boy that were quite OK then but
>>>are not today ... Braddock, Rankin, North Braddock, Wilkinsburg, Homewood,
>>>Brushton, parts of East Liberty, even parts of the North Side.  Basically,
>>>follow the Pennsylvania Railroad to the east ... those were the older and
>>>now decaying neighborhoods.
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>>>Mark McGuire wrote:
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>>>>Gee, Fred! I'd love to tour the North Side and East End with you
>>>>sometime. I never ventured into these areas very much when I lived
>>>>in Pittsburgh. Had the streetcars still been running when I was a teen,
>>>>I'd have been all over the system I'm sure. I was relegated to just
>>>>42/38, 35, 36, and 49Arlington-Warrington. My mother went to Perry
>>>>High on the North Side. My brother, who is a city cop, lives on Ivory
>>>>Ave.(isn't this near Evergreen?). I'd love to see where the streetcars
>>>>once ran.
>>>> I plan on being at PTM for the rollout of Red Arrow 14 June 26th.
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