[PRCo] Re: Location?

Harold Geissenheimer transitmgr2 at earthlink.net
Sat Feb 28 21:10:09 EST 2004


Fred
You miss the many people who have moved back to the city in Boston, 
Chicago, etc
The Ravenwood line in Chicago now needs 8 car trains.,  10 years ago it was
ready to be abandoned.

Brooklyn is doine well.  And so is the Bronx.  I go to Yankee Stadium by 
subway.
as to many thousands,

Harold Geissenheimer

Fred Schneider wrote:

>Harold's point is well taken.  I agree with it.  And also saddening because it
>isn't like all cities.  But it is like many cities in the United States.  But
>why do I feel so much more comfortable in Canadian or European cities?  I can
>walk around Calgary or London at night in a suit without any fear at all.
>People tell me that East London or the Jamaican sections to the southwest of
>central London, England, are bad.  Maybe bad by their standards, but perhaps no
>worse than the better sections of our cities.  I've not felt uncomfortable
>anywhere in London in coat and tie, and with three cameras.  They still have
>cities where you can buy things, see shows, eat dinner.  Just look at the
>difference between Toronto and Buffalo ... day and night.
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>I worked as an program auditor for the state employment service back in the
>1980s.  I normally dressed in a suit or sports coat.  Even in Pittsburgh then.
>But when I went to Philadelphia, I took the oldest car in the fleet and dressed
>down ... way down ... sort of like I was working in my garden.  And the staff in
>our offices in Philly dressed down too.  Dressing up was simply saying, "Here's
>my wallet."  We had one office in West Philly with three armed guards ... one in
>the parking lot and two inside.  The two inside were unable or unwilling to
>stave off two muggings of employees in one year.
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>No Harold, I don't want to move to the city.  Not here.  I used to love the
>cities.  I would walk around Brooklyn or Homewood or North Philly in my youth
>with wreckless abandon.  Times have changed.  I'll still wander around Bern,
>Zurich, Paris, Lisbon, Milano, Munich, London, Toronto and I could enjoy living
>in those or similar cities.  But the United States has abandoned the concept of
>urban viability.   Americans spend a disproportionate amount of their income and
>energy trying to move away from people they feel are inferior.  I don't like it
>but I recognize it.
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>Harold Geissenheimer wrote:
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>>Fred
>>Is it really that bad?   In daylight?  While schools are in class?
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>>I drove along the East Busway last October on Sunday AM.
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>>Fred..you should move to the city.  Too much fear
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>>Like any city, dont carry visible cameras or dress high.
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>>Harold Geissenheimer
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>>Fred Schneider wrote:
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>>>Remember now, Mark, there are some neighborhoods that you really don't want
>>>to enter without the 82nd Airborne Division in your car for protection.  A
>>>lot of places that I used to be taken as a boy that were quite OK then but
>>>are not today ... Braddock, Rankin, North Braddock, Wilkinsburg, Homewood,
>>>Brushton, parts of East Liberty, even parts of the North Side.  Basically,
>>>follow the Pennsylvania Railroad to the east ... those were the older and
>>>now decaying neighborhoods.
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>>>Mark McGuire wrote:
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>>>>Gee, Fred! I'd love to tour the North Side and East End with you
>>>>sometime. I never ventured into these areas very much when I lived
>>>>in Pittsburgh. Had the streetcars still been running when I was a teen,
>>>>I'd have been all over the system I'm sure. I was relegated to just
>>>>42/38, 35, 36, and 49Arlington-Warrington. My mother went to Perry
>>>>High on the North Side. My brother, who is a city cop, lives on Ivory
>>>>Ave.(isn't this near Evergreen?). I'd love to see where the streetcars
>>>>once ran.
>>>> I plan on being at PTM for the rollout of Red Arrow 14 June 26th.
>>>>
>>>>                       Mark Mc
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