[PRCo] Re: Operator Training - and murders

[Harold Geissenheimer]

Greetings
There was an exception to this ready fare.

In Dayton, the City Railway as a private trolley bus operator
continued for years until public takeover to have drivers
give change.  The secret..owner and protrolley bus manager Bill Owens
armed his drivers with weapons.  He sent them all to auxilary police school
and deputized them!

On some bad routes, he had armed mechanics ride shot gun.  And
supervisors had a mounted shot gun.

I visited Bill in the early l970;s and saw this first hand.

Harold Geissenheimer

Dietrich, Robert J. wrote:

>1968?  That's good, I don't have to stage this on the module since I'm
>still back in the '50s.  My motormen still carry the change machines.
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
>Edward H. Lybarger
>Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:16 PM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Operator Training - and murders
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>This was in 1968.  Ready-Fare came about almost instantly as a result.
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of
>Harold Geissenheimer
>Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:05 PM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Operator Training - and murders
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>Greetings
>Yes..a murder at South Hills Jct about 330AM.  Man on
>his way to work.  Harold
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>Boris Cefer wrote:
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>>Motorman murdered at South Hills? Strange!
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>>Boris
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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Harold Geissenheimer" <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
>>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:58 PM
>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Operator Training
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>>>Greetings
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>>>Ready Fare came to Pgh after a murder of a motorman at South
>>>Hills Jct on a stairway down from a parking lot.
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>>>About learning routes...In the 1970's we split the very large
>>>East Liberty Garage into two lists.  Drivers had to learn only
>>>half of the former routes.  It worked then.  I dont know if
>>>they still do it.
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>>>Harold Geissenheimer
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>>>hrbran99 at adelphia.net wrote:
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>>>><When you started, Herb, where you required to make change?  If so,
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>>>>No, change making had become a thing of the past almost all over the
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>>do to robbery. "Ready Fare System" was the buzz phrase of the day in
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>>>>No, I can't say that I have. However, here in Cleveland there was one
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>>had a hard time learning the routes. Especially on routes with several
>>branches such as 20/20A/20B/20C. Several times his bus and passengers
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>>Zoo. I think they (management) convinced him to become a Rapid Transit
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>>>>From: Fred Schneider <fschnei at supernet.com>
>>>>Date: 2004/06/29 Tue PM 06:05:43 EDT
>>>>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: [PRCo]
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>>>>I really liked Herb's response. Thanks.
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