[PRCo] Re: Operator Training - and murders

[Fred Schneider]

WOW.  What else can one say.

Harold Geissenheimer wrote:

> Greetings
> There was an exception to this ready fare.
>
> In Dayton, the City Railway as a private trolley bus operator
> continued for years until public takeover to have drivers
> give change.  The secret..owner and protrolley bus manager Bill Owens
> armed his drivers with weapons.  He sent them all to auxilary police school
> and deputized them!
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> On some bad routes, he had armed mechanics ride shot gun.  And
> supervisors had a mounted shot gun.
>
> I visited Bill in the early l970;s and saw this first hand.
>
> Harold Geissenheimer
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> Dietrich, Robert J. wrote:
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> >1968?  That's good, I don't have to stage this on the module since I'm
> >still back in the '50s.  My motormen still carry the change machines.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> >[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
> >Edward H. Lybarger
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:16 PM
> >To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >Subject: [PRCo] Re: Operator Training - and murders
> >
> >This was in 1968.  Ready-Fare came about almost instantly as a result.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> >[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of
> >Harold Geissenheimer
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:05 PM
> >To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >Subject: [PRCo] Re: Operator Training - and murders
> >
> >
> >Greetings
> >Yes..a murder at South Hills Jct about 330AM.  Man on
> >his way to work.  Harold
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> >Boris Cefer wrote:
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> >>Motorman murdered at South Hills? Strange!
> >>
> >>Boris
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Harold Geissenheimer" <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
> >>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >>Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:58 PM
> >>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Operator Training
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> >>>Greetings
> >>>
> >>>Ready Fare came to Pgh after a murder of a motorman at South
> >>>Hills Jct on a stairway down from a parking lot.
> >>>
> >>>About learning routes...In the 1970's we split the very large
> >>>East Liberty Garage into two lists.  Drivers had to learn only
> >>>half of the former routes.  It worked then.  I dont know if
> >>>they still do it.
> >>>
> >>>Harold Geissenheimer
> >>>
> >>>hrbran99 at adelphia.net wrote:
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> >>>><When you started, Herb, where you required to make change?  If so,
> >>>>
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> >did
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> >>that cause a problem for some operators?>
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> >>>>No, change making had become a thing of the past almost all over the
> >>>>
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> >US
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> >>do to robbery. "Ready Fare System" was the buzz phrase of the day in
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> >1972.
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> >>>><Did you ever meet an operator that could not tell time?>
> >>>>
> >>>>No, I can't say that I have. However, here in Cleveland there was one
> >>>>
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> >who
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> >>had a hard time learning the routes. Especially on routes with several
> >>branches such as 20/20A/20B/20C. Several times his bus and passengers
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> >who
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> >>were supposed to be heading to Parma or Broadview Heights  ended up at
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> >the
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> >>Zoo. I think they (management) convinced him to become a Rapid Transit
> >>Station Attendant.
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> >>>>============================================================
> >>>>From: Fred Schneider <fschnei at supernet.com>
> >>>>Date: 2004/06/29 Tue PM 06:05:43 EDT
> >>>>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: [PRCo]
> >>>>
> >>>>I really liked Herb's response. Thanks.
> >>>>
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