[PRCo] Re: Operator Training - and murders

[Harold Geissenheimer]

Fred and all
Can you top this.  The interurban in Pittsburg Kansas
armed their motormen abiut 1921 becayse if a rash of holdyos.

Harold Geissenheimer

Fred Schneider wrote:

>WOW.  What else can one say.
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>Harold Geissenheimer wrote:
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>>Greetings
>>There was an exception to this ready fare.
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>>In Dayton, the City Railway as a private trolley bus operator
>>continued for years until public takeover to have drivers
>>give change.  The secret..owner and protrolley bus manager Bill Owens
>>armed his drivers with weapons.  He sent them all to auxilary police school
>>and deputized them!
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>>On some bad routes, he had armed mechanics ride shot gun.  And
>>supervisors had a mounted shot gun.
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>>I visited Bill in the early l970;s and saw this first hand.
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>>Harold Geissenheimer
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>>Dietrich, Robert J. wrote:
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>>>1968?  That's good, I don't have to stage this on the module since I'm
>>>still back in the '50s.  My motormen still carry the change machines.
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
>>>Edward H. Lybarger
>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:16 PM
>>>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Operator Training - and murders
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>>>This was in 1968.  Ready-Fare came about almost instantly as a result.
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of
>>>Harold Geissenheimer
>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 1:05 PM
>>>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Operator Training - and murders
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>>>Greetings
>>>Yes..a murder at South Hills Jct about 330AM.  Man on
>>>his way to work.  Harold
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>>>Boris Cefer wrote:
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>>>>Motorman murdered at South Hills? Strange!
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>>>>Boris
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>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Harold Geissenheimer" <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
>>>>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:58 PM
>>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Operator Training
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>>>>>Greetings
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>>>>>Ready Fare came to Pgh after a murder of a motorman at South
>>>>>Hills Jct on a stairway down from a parking lot.
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>>>>>About learning routes...In the 1970's we split the very large
>>>>>East Liberty Garage into two lists.  Drivers had to learn only
>>>>>half of the former routes.  It worked then.  I dont know if
>>>>>they still do it.
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>>>>>Harold Geissenheimer
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>>>>>><When you started, Herb, where you required to make change?  If so,
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>>>>>>No, change making had become a thing of the past almost all over the
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>>>>do to robbery. "Ready Fare System" was the buzz phrase of the day in
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>>>>>><Did you ever meet an operator that could not tell time?>
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>>>>>>No, I can't say that I have. However, here in Cleveland there was one
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>>>>had a hard time learning the routes. Especially on routes with several
>>>>branches such as 20/20A/20B/20C. Several times his bus and passengers
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>>>>were supposed to be heading to Parma or Broadview Heights  ended up at
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>>>>Zoo. I think they (management) convinced him to become a Rapid Transit
>>>>Station Attendant.
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>>>>>>From: Fred Schneider <fschnei at supernet.com>
>>>>>>Date: 2004/06/29 Tue PM 06:05:43 EDT
>>>>>>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: [PRCo]
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>>>>>>I really liked Herb's response. Thanks.
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