[PRCo] Re: Fineview___PCCs

[Mark McGuire]

  I'm game. I'd love to sit down with you and go through this stuff
Fred! I'm hoping I can control myself and not act like a kid in a 
candy store when viewing those negatives. ;>)

                      Mark Mc

-- Fred Schneider <fschnei at supernet.com> wrote:
Unless the number 1674 (in Holland's note) is a typographical error, I
don't find it surprising that it was at Tunnel.  It is a Westinghouse
car and would have been inappropriate for Keating or Millvale.

What we really don't have is a good list of where each car was over
time.  It would not surprise me if someone told me that there were no
1600s at Tunnel in the early years because the company tried to keep as
many identical cars as they could in one place ... simplifies parts
inventory and reduces repair time.

I once started a roster of cars by division but only of the yellow cars
because I was trying to get a handle on how they were divided up ... my
source was the Dengler negative collection.  But I was doing it at work
and, as so often happens, earning a living got in the way of play time.
Whatever I did later got dumped off the computer (I hope to hell it did
before someone else saw it).

We know that 100 went to Craft, and that the 1000s were divided up among
Ingram, Tunnel, Craft, Glenwood and Bunkerhill.  Millvale, Manchester,
Keating, Carrick and Homewood got PCCs as the 1100s arrived.  Note that
I'm being very careful not to say that the 1100s went to those barns.
Herron Hill first got PCCs with the 1400s; Tylerdale with the 1600s and
Charleroi with the 1700s.   I'm not sure about Rankin ... it may have
very briefly had PCCs for route 55 and if so, Glenwood got its 1000s in
a shift from Rankin.  Obviously, over time, there was considerable
shifting of cars to get similar cars into the same divisions.  I have no
data on when that happened.  Maybe when Mark McGuire comes up in June we
can sit down and make a team effort of going through the Dengler
negatives and use that to indicate what was where on the days we took
pictures ... he took a picture of almost every active car starting in
1938 or 1939.

And for the edification of Boris and others not on the list the last
time I mentioned it, the yellow cars were also assigned to barns based
on control apparatus.  But this tends to be more speculative.  Keating,
Glenwood, Manchester, Craft and Millvale has K control cars.
Bunkerhill, Tylerdale, Charleroi and Ingram had remote control / MU
cars, at least in later years.  But we also know that during the war the
last low-speed single-end cars were at Manchester and Homewood,  and
most of those were MU cars from the 5100 series.   We also know that all
the 3750s were at Tunnel in spite of the fact that Ingram was crammed
with similar 5200s (maybe Ingram didn't have enough space to run all the
West End lines and scrap cars at the same time?).

BCC: Hamley


Jim Holland wrote:

> Good Morning!
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> >> Jim Holland wrote:
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> >> Also, depending upon date, 1674 was based at
> >> South Hills  --  late 1950s  --  so could have been
> >> a fantrip in disguise! :)
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> > BC wrote:
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> > How do you know? Do you have a copy of car assignment
> > roster from Fred 3rd?
>
> > Boris
>
>         Not from Fred.     PTM regularly published car
> assignments in the latter 1950s forward  --  maybe even
> earlier.     There are some  TIFF  JPEG  copies in the
> archives.     Will see what I can find on this end.
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> Jim
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