[PRCo] Re: Fineview___PCCs

[Boris Cefer]

Mark,

You cannot imagine me!!!

Boris

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark McGuire" <macmarka at netzero.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 3:40 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fineview___PCCs


> 
>   I'm game. I'd love to sit down with you and go through this stuff
> Fred! I'm hoping I can control myself and not act like a kid in a 
> candy store when viewing those negatives. ;>)
> 
>                       Mark Mc
> 
> -- Fred Schneider <fschnei at supernet.com> wrote:
> Unless the number 1674 (in Holland's note) is a typographical error, I
> don't find it surprising that it was at Tunnel.  It is a Westinghouse
> car and would have been inappropriate for Keating or Millvale.
> 
> What we really don't have is a good list of where each car was over
> time.  It would not surprise me if someone told me that there were no
> 1600s at Tunnel in the early years because the company tried to keep as
> many identical cars as they could in one place ... simplifies parts
> inventory and reduces repair time.
> 
> I once started a roster of cars by division but only of the yellow cars
> because I was trying to get a handle on how they were divided up ... my
> source was the Dengler negative collection.  But I was doing it at work
> and, as so often happens, earning a living got in the way of play time.
> Whatever I did later got dumped off the computer (I hope to hell it did
> before someone else saw it).
> 
> We know that 100 went to Craft, and that the 1000s were divided up among
> Ingram, Tunnel, Craft, Glenwood and Bunkerhill.  Millvale, Manchester,
> Keating, Carrick and Homewood got PCCs as the 1100s arrived.  Note that
> I'm being very careful not to say that the 1100s went to those barns.
> Herron Hill first got PCCs with the 1400s; Tylerdale with the 1600s and
> Charleroi with the 1700s.   I'm not sure about Rankin ... it may have
> very briefly had PCCs for route 55 and if so, Glenwood got its 1000s in
> a shift from Rankin.  Obviously, over time, there was considerable
> shifting of cars to get similar cars into the same divisions.  I have no
> data on when that happened.  Maybe when Mark McGuire comes up in June we
> can sit down and make a team effort of going through the Dengler
> negatives and use that to indicate what was where on the days we took
> pictures ... he took a picture of almost every active car starting in
> 1938 or 1939.
> 
> And for the edification of Boris and others not on the list the last
> time I mentioned it, the yellow cars were also assigned to barns based
> on control apparatus.  But this tends to be more speculative.  Keating,
> Glenwood, Manchester, Craft and Millvale has K control cars.
> Bunkerhill, Tylerdale, Charleroi and Ingram had remote control / MU
> cars, at least in later years.  But we also know that during the war the
> last low-speed single-end cars were at Manchester and Homewood,  and
> most of those were MU cars from the 5100 series.   We also know that all
> the 3750s were at Tunnel in spite of the fact that Ingram was crammed
> with similar 5200s (maybe Ingram didn't have enough space to run all the
> West End lines and scrap cars at the same time?).
> 
> BCC: Hamley
> 
> 
> Jim Holland wrote:
> 
> > Good Morning!
> >
> > >> Jim Holland wrote:
> >
> > >> Also, depending upon date, 1674 was based at
> > >> South Hills  --  late 1950s  --  so could have been
> > >> a fantrip in disguise! :)
> >
> > > BC wrote:
> >
> > > How do you know? Do you have a copy of car assignment
> > > roster from Fred 3rd?
> >
> > > Boris
> >
> >         Not from Fred.     PTM regularly published car
> > assignments in the latter 1950s forward  --  maybe even
> > earlier.     There are some  TIFF  JPEG  copies in the
> > archives.     Will see what I can find on this end.
> >
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> >
> > Jim
> >
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