[PRCo] Re: Arden Progress

Harold Geissenheimer transitmgr2 at earthlink.net
Mon Mar 29 13:51:19 EST 2004


Greetings
Didnt thePRC PCC instruction car have a glass over the controller?

Harold

Fred Schneider wrote:

>You didn't hear me argue with you.  I'm smiling.
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>The engineer in me says grrrrreat.  The museum manager in me says no, because
>the public would not understand.  They can recognize complexity, but not
>differences between a B2 and a B3.
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>Really, the purpose of a museum is to educate and demonstrate, and if it works,
>good.  The only trolley museum I know of that cut open a car to show how it was
>made was not run by railfans ... it is the city owned operation in Scranton
>which took a Birney and carved it up to show the public the different parts.
>Someone there must have looked across the street at the steam engine that was
>carved up by the National Park Service to show the same thing.  And guess what?
>The public looks at it and relates to it.  While I'm not supporting taking a
>torch to something really significant like the Derby, Connecticut freight
>locomotive at Branford, I'm certainly not going to take offense at butchering
>one of the many New Orleans 800s or Boston Type 5s or PCCs to show how they were
>put together.  How about a PCC laying on its side to show its belly?  Or with a
>glass floor?  (Would scratch, wouldn't it?)
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>I liked the response.  It gives me entertainment.
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>Boris Cefer wrote:
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>>And what about to make 1613 (its repair isn't sheduled yet) with one half in
>>PRCo paint and second half in ugly PAT gray. And front truck B-3 and rear
>>B-2. Did I say I'm an engineer? Cheeze whiz!
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>>B
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>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Fred Schneider" <fschnei at supernet.com>
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>>>3.  And what about Pittsburgh Railways 4398?  Justin told me has to
>>>start on it on May 13th.   That will be the car that cannot ever be
>>>restored to one time frame without a great deal of effort and our own
>>>gold mine.  Pittsburgh changed them so much over time that there may not
>>>have been a handful of identical cars by the time they were scrapped.
>>>Some had level floors, some drop center.  Some had center doors that
>>>worked; some had blocked center doors with seats added.  Some had  25 hp
>>>motors, some 37 hp.  Some went to the scrap yard with Jones control,
>>>some had the Westinghouse copy of GE type M, and others had K-35
>>>control.  I would not surprise me if at least one got a K43 out of a
>>>4100 at some point.  Bells were on the roof, some were under the floor.
>>>Some were scrapped as two man cars, some as one man cars.  Brake ratios
>>>were changed on some cars.    What a wonderful chance to make a Jones
>>>car on one side and a one-man K car on the other!
>>>
>>>That out to stir up a little hate mail?
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