[PRCo] Re: Arden Progress

Boris Cefer boris6 at volny.cz
Mon Mar 29 15:36:26 EST 2004


Yes, it did. But I am waiting for Fred's question what was under the glass.
It has something to do with teasing. Because I think it wasn't true
accelerator!

Boris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold Geissenheimer" <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:51 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Arden Progress


> Greetings
> Didnt thePRC PCC instruction car have a glass over the controller?
>
> Harold
>
> Fred Schneider wrote:
>
> >You didn't hear me argue with you.  I'm smiling.
> >
> >The engineer in me says grrrrreat.  The museum manager in me says no,
because
> >the public would not understand.  They can recognize complexity, but not
> >differences between a B2 and a B3.
> >
> >Really, the purpose of a museum is to educate and demonstrate, and if it
works,
> >good.  The only trolley museum I know of that cut open a car to show how
it was
> >made was not run by railfans ... it is the city owned operation in
Scranton
> >which took a Birney and carved it up to show the public the different
parts.
> >Someone there must have looked across the street at the steam engine that
was
> >carved up by the National Park Service to show the same thing.  And guess
what?
> >The public looks at it and relates to it.  While I'm not supporting
taking a
> >torch to something really significant like the Derby, Connecticut freight
> >locomotive at Branford, I'm certainly not going to take offense at
butchering
> >one of the many New Orleans 800s or Boston Type 5s or PCCs to show how
they were
> >put together.  How about a PCC laying on its side to show its belly?  Or
with a
> >glass floor?  (Would scratch, wouldn't it?)
> >
> >I liked the response.  It gives me entertainment.
> >
> >Boris Cefer wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>And what about to make 1613 (its repair isn't sheduled yet) with one
half in
> >>PRCo paint and second half in ugly PAT gray. And front truck B-3 and
rear
> >>B-2. Did I say I'm an engineer? Cheeze whiz!
> >>
> >>B
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Fred Schneider" <fschnei at supernet.com>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>3.  And what about Pittsburgh Railways 4398?  Justin told me has to
> >>>start on it on May 13th.   That will be the car that cannot ever be
> >>>restored to one time frame without a great deal of effort and our own
> >>>gold mine.  Pittsburgh changed them so much over time that there may
not
> >>>have been a handful of identical cars by the time they were scrapped.
> >>>Some had level floors, some drop center.  Some had center doors that
> >>>worked; some had blocked center doors with seats added.  Some had  25
hp
> >>>motors, some 37 hp.  Some went to the scrap yard with Jones control,
> >>>some had the Westinghouse copy of GE type M, and others had K-35
> >>>control.  I would not surprise me if at least one got a K43 out of a
> >>>4100 at some point.  Bells were on the roof, some were under the floor.
> >>>Some were scrapped as two man cars, some as one man cars.  Brake ratios
> >>>were changed on some cars.    What a wonderful chance to make a Jones
> >>>car on one side and a one-man K car on the other!
> >>>
> >>>That out to stir up a little hate mail?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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