[PRCo] Re: Run numbers

[James B. Holland]

John Swindler wrote:

> There were also instances where I would work two different routes 
> during the day. I'd display the same run number for both pieces of 
> work. An example might be two morning round trips on Lincoln, and an 
> afternoon peak trip on Sheridan-Outer Drive Express.


Called Working A Foreign Line here.       We still have multiples of 
those.       There are some AM trippers in my division that work the 
5-Fulton to downtown and East Bay Terminal  (EBT)  at which point the 
TrolleyCoach changes route signs to 3-Jackson - travel between EBT and 
Sutter/Sansome is part of the 5-outbound.       But the coach doesn't 
make the complete outbound trip on the 3-Jackson  --  in fact, it never 
even gets to Jackson as it turns outbound from Fillmore to California 
and from there it turns to the 1-California Inbound on Steiner to 
Sacramento.       It only returns to California and Presidio, not the 
full outbound length of the 1-Cal, and then returns to the barn.

We also have some AM tripper runs which work inbound on the 5-Fulton or 
21-Hayes, then outbound on the 4-Sutter to Presidio and California  (not 
the full length of the 4-Sutter,) then inbound on the 1-California and 
back to Presidio and Cal to return to the barn.


> There were also some routes shared with other garages. The run numbers 
> were apparently unique to each garage, because those buses from a 
> different garage would have a different series of numbers.


The 41-Union in SF used to be a 24 hour line run from Presidio.      In 
1988 it became a Rush Hour Only Line  --  Stock Brokers Squawked Loud 
And Clear about this and some Very Early Trips were added to get these 
folks to work downtown.       The 41-Union was then split between both 
Presidio and Potrero divisions, both Trolley Coach Barns.       Presidio 
Runs start with 1 and end around 180; Potrero Runs Start at 300 and work 
upward  --  number gives away the division.       Similar is done with 
the several diseasal divisions.


I have some rough drafts of our proposed sign-up for next month and I 
see that Muni is now using the term  BLOCK  for   TRAIN  on the 
rotations sheets.       Individual Paddles for the  BLOCK  list the  
Number  Itself but don't identify it by name.       Will have to look at 
the Range sheets to see how the  Train  is identified there.       
Having worked the same identical schedule for the past decade I haven't 
looked at schedules / tables / ranges / rotation sheets in any 
detail!       In fact, several times a year I am quite miffed that there 
are so many Different Drivers on the coaches that pass me  --  then I 
realize that a New Sign Up just took effect and drivers changed runs  
--  well, most of them did!


You were working Trolley Coaches in Chicago, weren't you John?       
Don't know of any TCs working outer Sheridan Drive, though!       You 
should have told me you were there  --  several times I went to Chicago 
just to ride the Trolleys  --  I was in Waukegan from 1967 to 1977  --  
Ken was in Milwaukee but we met in the Burger Christmas of 1976  --  
still can't pull up memories of that!       Possibility that Ken could 
have ridden your TC / MC in Chicago as well!       World gets smaller 
all the time!



Jim__Holland


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