[PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Rys car 4398

[Harold G.]

Greetings   Please add me also.  The private company
also owned Louisville and Indianapolis and were ptretty
good bus operators.  Thanks

Harold Geissenheimer

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams at adelphia.net>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Date: Monday, February 28, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Rys car 4398


>Please include me in the off-list elaboration!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Fred
>Schneider
>Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:49 AM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Rys car 4398
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>Before you do that .... remember the Federal penalties that were enacted
for
>kidnapping after Lindberg's child was taken.... I think it is death.   Find
>your
>own slaves!
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>Now curiously .... body bolsters or truck bolsters?
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>And something else that I was thinking about the other day.  What was the
>primary reason for the conversion of the TM city system to bus / trackless?
>a.  economics.  This includes not only "we're not making money running it"
>but
>also "income is insufficient to modernize it as a rail system."
>b.  public pressure
>c.  political pressure
>d.  The company simply though it was the thing to do.
>e.  1937 Public Utility Divesture Act
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>Please elaborate off list.
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>Ken & Tracie wrote:
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>> Tongue-in-cheek warning:
>>
>> I may step on a few of my fellow Wisconsin fans, but I may as well go
>public
>> with this. There are two retired and complete Milwaukee city cars which
>will
>> probably never run again, at least before anybody who actually rode them
>(in
>> service) is still among the living.
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>> Main excuse in both cases? Bad bolsters.
>>
>> I plan to kidnap those two brilliant youngsters you guys at PTM are
>blessed
>> with and turn them lose at a couple of unnamed museums to do their magic
>on
>> some Brew City survivors!
>>
>> Sneak 'em into the carbarns and put 'em to work before letting the
"brass"
>> know what's going on. Those cars will be so far along by the time the
>> elected officials find out about it, that they'll have no choice but to
>> approve funding to complete them! :-)
>>
>> K.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fschnei at supernet.com>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Cc: "Allman Rich" <trolleydoc at aol.com>; "Boris Cefer"
><westinghouse at iol.cz>;
>> "Bruce Wells" <bwells at nauticom.net>; "Tom Phillips" <tsquare at toad.net>;
>> "Dick Kotulak" <CRVLKOTULA at aol.com>; "Bruce Bente" <bbente at cytechusa.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 5:01 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Pittsburgh Rys car 4398
>>
>> > For those unable to get there ...
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>> > I had meetings yesterday at PTM with the docent training committee and
>> > the education committee, and that gave me a wonderful opportunity to
see
>> > how the overhaul of 4398 was progressing.  I love receiving Bruce
Well's
>> > "weekly" reports but seeing is so many times better.
>> >
>> > My initial reaction was, "My God, it's self supporting."   It's resting
>> > on cribbing at the bolsters.  It doesn't sag.   It looks like a
>> > streetcar.  And it's probably less than 5% St. Louis Car Co. 1917 by
>> > weight and more than 95% PTM.   The roof carlines and the letterboard
>> > are original and Justin showed me two small pieces of original steel in
>> > the frame.    Justin, Jeff, Ralph and company were riveting in the
>> > center door step well and the posts between the center door leaves.
>> > What a heat sink that steel body is after sitting in an unheated
>> > environment.  A bright orange rivet could be placed through the steel
>> > and it would turn black in about 5 or 6 seconds .... tells you just how
>> > much time Justin had to hammer it in place.
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