[PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Rys car 4398

[Boris Cefer]

>From an orthodox railfan's view, there is nothing like a good bus operator
;-)

Boris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold G." <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:18 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Rys car 4398


> Greetings   Please add me also.  The private company
> also owned Louisville and Indianapolis and were ptretty
> good bus operators.  Thanks
>
> Harold Geissenheimer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams at adelphia.net>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Date: Monday, February 28, 2005 12:45 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Rys car 4398
>
>
> >Please include me in the off-list elaboration!
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> >[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Fred
> >Schneider
> >Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:49 AM
> >To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Rys car 4398
> >
> >
> >Before you do that .... remember the Federal penalties that were enacted
> for
> >kidnapping after Lindberg's child was taken.... I think it is death.
Find
> >your
> >own slaves!
> >
> >Now curiously .... body bolsters or truck bolsters?
> >
> >And something else that I was thinking about the other day.  What was the
> >primary reason for the conversion of the TM city system to bus /
trackless?
> >a.  economics.  This includes not only "we're not making money running
it"
> >but
> >also "income is insufficient to modernize it as a rail system."
> >b.  public pressure
> >c.  political pressure
> >d.  The company simply though it was the thing to do.
> >e.  1937 Public Utility Divesture Act
> >
> >Please elaborate off list.
> >
> >
> >Ken & Tracie wrote:
> >
> >> Tongue-in-cheek warning:
> >>
> >> I may step on a few of my fellow Wisconsin fans, but I may as well go
> >public
> >> with this. There are two retired and complete Milwaukee city cars which
> >will
> >> probably never run again, at least before anybody who actually rode
them
> >(in
> >> service) is still among the living.
> >>
> >> Main excuse in both cases? Bad bolsters.
> >>
> >> I plan to kidnap those two brilliant youngsters you guys at PTM are
> >blessed
> >> with and turn them lose at a couple of unnamed museums to do their
magic
> >on
> >> some Brew City survivors!
> >>
> >> Sneak 'em into the carbarns and put 'em to work before letting the
> "brass"
> >> know what's going on. Those cars will be so far along by the time the
> >> elected officials find out about it, that they'll have no choice but to
> >> approve funding to complete them! :-)
> >>
> >> K.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Fred Schneider" <fschnei at supernet.com>
> >> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >> Cc: "Allman Rich" <trolleydoc at aol.com>; "Boris Cefer"
> ><westinghouse at iol.cz>;
> >> "Bruce Wells" <bwells at nauticom.net>; "Tom Phillips" <tsquare at toad.net>;
> >> "Dick Kotulak" <CRVLKOTULA at aol.com>; "Bruce Bente"
<bbente at cytechusa.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 5:01 PM
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Pittsburgh Rys car 4398
> >>
> >> > For those unable to get there ...
> >> >
> >> > I had meetings yesterday at PTM with the docent training committee
and
> >> > the education committee, and that gave me a wonderful opportunity to
> see
> >> > how the overhaul of 4398 was progressing.  I love receiving Bruce
> Well's
> >> > "weekly" reports but seeing is so many times better.
> >> >
> >> > My initial reaction was, "My God, it's self supporting."   It's
resting
> >> > on cribbing at the bolsters.  It doesn't sag.   It looks like a
> >> > streetcar.  And it's probably less than 5% St. Louis Car Co. 1917 by
> >> > weight and more than 95% PTM.   The roof carlines and the letterboard
> >> > are original and Justin showed me two small pieces of original steel
in
> >> > the frame.    Justin, Jeff, Ralph and company were riveting in the
> >> > center door step well and the posts between the center door leaves.
> >> > What a heat sink that steel body is after sitting in an unheated
> >> > environment.  A bright orange rivet could be placed through the steel
> >> > and it would turn black in about 5 or 6 seconds .... tells you just
how
> >> > much time Justin had to hammer it in place.
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