[PRCo] Re: South Side Car House

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Sat Jan 15 19:42:16 EST 2005


Yep, I should have known.  They go back to horse car days.  Wonder if they 
had an earlier barn somewhere closer to golden triangle.

John


>From: "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams at adelphia.net>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: South Side Car House
>Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:29:31 -0500
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>That's "Birmingham."
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of John
>Swindler
>Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 8:54 AM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: South Side Car House
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>Why would it say Pittsburgh Railways Company??.   That would have cost 
>money
>to change the name.
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>Try  'Pittsburgh and Birmington (RR)'
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>That's what turns up on the 1917 map
>
>http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/maps/showmap.pl?client=maps&image=16v
>06p09&levels=5&originx=984&originy=1117&lastlevel=1&fullheight=6900&fullwidt
>h=9640&level=1&size=2&image.x=324&image.y=702
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>So how many different trolley companies operated on southside????   Looking
>at 1917 map, appears that there was some competition to account for track
>density.   Or else P&B was trying to keep out the competition.  However,
>30th St. is only PRC carbarn that shows up in index.
>
>Another question:  So just what is the oldest surviving car barn in
>Pittsburgh?  (I'm clueless)  Does anything survive???
>
>John
>
> >From: Matt Barry <mrb190+ at pitt.edu>
> >Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >Subject: [PRCo] Re: South Side Car House
> >Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:46:45 -0500
> >
> >Using the "zoom in" tool as far as it would take me, I could barely make
> >out what the etched name on that building is.  It's not J&L and it is
> >not "Pittsburgh Railways."
> >I thought at one point it had the word 'bridge' in it, and maybe
> >'american,' but I am not sure.
> >Someone with good close-up vision (that's not me), give it a try.
> >First make the jpeg as large as possible, clicking on the biggest
> >rectangle you see on the left.   Then click on the "+" sign and then put
> >your cursor where you want on the photo and click.  It will zoom in
> >continually as much as you want, repeating the above process, up to a
> >certain zoom level.
> >
> >That's definitely a PCC signed for "50 Carson Street."
> >
> >I thought perhaps that was a wye area for the car to back into.
> >Could this be the area where the loop between Carson and Sarah streets
> >used to be?   I don't think it is given the way the double overhead and
> >tracks seem to continue on from that point, on what is presumably Carson
> >Street.
> >
> >This is a great historical photo.   Glad you found it and shared it, Ray!
> >
> >Matt
> >
> >
> >Lattner, Raymond wrote:
> >
> > >Hello, I came across this picture of what I think maybe PRCo 30th 
>street
> >Car House or Power House. Can any of you verify what this Building is?
> >Also, does anyone have a 1940ish track plan for this car house or route 
>50
> >loop.
> > >
> >
> >http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?sid=71176c9eec80a2
>4f0e57e47778387335;xc=1;g=imls;q1=furnace;rgn1=ic_all;size=20;lasttype=boole
>an;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;subview=detail;cc=accd;entryid=x-msp285.b01
>3.f29.i01;viewid=ACCD2572.TIF;start=1;resnum=2
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> > >Key words: South Side before Jones & Laughlin Expansion
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >Ray
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