[PRCo] Re: South Side Car House

Edward H. Lybarger trams at adelphia.net
Sat Jan 15 09:29:31 EST 2005


That's "Birmingham."

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of John
Swindler
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 8:54 AM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: South Side Car House




Why would it say Pittsburgh Railways Company??.   That would have cost money
to change the name.

Try  'Pittsburgh and Birmington (RR)'

That's what turns up on the 1917 map

http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/maps/showmap.pl?client=maps&image=16v
06p09&levels=5&originx=984&originy=1117&lastlevel=1&fullheight=6900&fullwidt
h=9640&level=1&size=2&image.x=324&image.y=702

So how many different trolley companies operated on southside????   Looking
at 1917 map, appears that there was some competition to account for track
density.   Or else P&B was trying to keep out the competition.  However,
30th St. is only PRC carbarn that shows up in index.

Another question:  So just what is the oldest surviving car barn in
Pittsburgh?  (I'm clueless)  Does anything survive???

John

>From: Matt Barry <mrb190+ at pitt.edu>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: South Side Car House
>Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:46:45 -0500
>
>Using the "zoom in" tool as far as it would take me, I could barely make
>out what the etched name on that building is.  It's not J&L and it is
>not "Pittsburgh Railways."
>I thought at one point it had the word 'bridge' in it, and maybe
>'american,' but I am not sure.
>Someone with good close-up vision (that's not me), give it a try.
>First make the jpeg as large as possible, clicking on the biggest
>rectangle you see on the left.   Then click on the "+" sign and then put
>your cursor where you want on the photo and click.  It will zoom in
>continually as much as you want, repeating the above process, up to a
>certain zoom level.
>
>That's definitely a PCC signed for "50 Carson Street."
>
>I thought perhaps that was a wye area for the car to back into.
>Could this be the area where the loop between Carson and Sarah streets
>used to be?   I don't think it is given the way the double overhead and
>tracks seem to continue on from that point, on what is presumably Carson
>Street.
>
>This is a great historical photo.   Glad you found it and shared it, Ray!
>
>Matt
>
>
>Lattner, Raymond wrote:
>
> >Hello, I came across this picture of what I think maybe PRCo 30th street
>Car House or Power House. Can any of you verify what this Building is?
>Also, does anyone have a 1940ish track plan for this car house or route 50
>loop.
> >
>
>http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?sid=71176c9eec80a2
4f0e57e47778387335;xc=1;g=imls;q1=furnace;rgn1=ic_all;size=20;lasttype=boole
an;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;subview=detail;cc=accd;entryid=x-msp285.b01
3.f29.i01;viewid=ACCD2572.TIF;start=1;resnum=2
> >
> >Key words: South Side before Jones & Laughlin Expansion
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Ray
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>








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