[PRCo] Re: FYI about PAT CAF cars
trams at adelphia.net
trams at adelphia.net
Thu Jan 27 13:39:54 EST 2005
It was Alabama.
---- John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >Fred Schneider mentioned:
> >
> >John et al:
> >
> >The sad thing about this is that both John and I are dependent for our
> >pensions
> >on the ability of the government to tax and collect taxes from the public.
> >Supposedly our state pensions are invested properly but that can easily be
> >summed up in the words of the person who approached someone else saying,
> >"I'm
> >from the government and I'm here to help you."
>
>
> And the second biggest lie is: "And we are glad to see you". <gg>
>
>
> >Certainly an ever increasing
> >number of retirees in Pennsylvania with a constant population and a
> >declining
> >number of jobs does not look good for those of us on pension. So John, we
> >travel while we can. fws
>
>
> Didn't the Georgia pension system recently invest heavily in US Air??
>
> And didn't the State teacher's pension fund have a heavy position in
> Worldcom?? Thought I saw a comment last year that this - and other poor
> investments - were putting a strain on school budgets/taxes across the
> state.
>
> But seriously, Fred, that's why I mentioned that we have a lot to be
> thankful. We may miss the 'good times', but we -have been/are -somewhat
> insulated from the 'bad times.' And yes, you are right about travel for
> several reasons. Do it now while still healthy.
>
> Amazing how ones perspective changes with age. <g>
>
> John
>
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> >John Swindler wrote:
> >
> > > >Fred Schneider mentioned:
> > > >
> > > >Jobs will always chace the cheapest workers. As sad as it may seem to
> > > >Americans, we've got a lot more jobs to loose unless we want to pay our
> > > >help
> > > >50 cents an hour.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Concerning jobs chasing cheap labor: I'll always remember a professor
> >at
> > > Point Park College mentioning that New York Life would bundle up their
> >US
> > > paperwork every night and air freight it to Ireland for processing.
> >Why?
> > > Yes, cheaper labor, but also better educated and better work ethic. And
> > > this was around 1970.
> > >
> > > The next jobs to be outsourced overseas? White collar jobs. When you
> >call
> > > for computer help, you very well could be talking to someone living in
> > > India.
> > >
> > > And Harold has mentioned Jet Blue. Where is their reservations center?
> >I
> > > was surprised when a tv show - might have been discovery or A&E -
> >mentioned
> > > that it's in the homes of part time contract workers in Salt Lake City
> > > region.
> > >
> > > (In many respects, I have a lot to be thankful for.)
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > p.s. didn't the center fuselage section of the Boeing 757 come from
> > > Kawasaki???
> > >
> > > p.s. to p.s. So were mine, Jim
> > >
> > > >"Dietrich, Robert J." wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > With all the discussion about sending big ticket items overseas for
> > > > > rebuilding I'll pass on one I heard on the radio news the other day.
> > > > > Keep in mind that I only hear half of what comes out of the radio
> >and I
> > > > > remember only half of that. Also I don't have time to follow-up, I
> > > > > hardly have time to keep up with these discussions; but I digress.
> > > > >
> > > > > The news report went something like - one or two airlines are flying
> > > > > their planes to El Salvador for major maintenance as a cost savings
> > > > > initiative. I can't remember what airlines but it is a little scary
> >to
> > > > > me. What FAA will be regulating those overhauls?
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> > > > > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
> > > > > James B. Holland
> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 7:07 PM
> > > > > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > > > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: FYI about PAT CAF cars
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't know that CAF is being criticized -- just the process of
> >what is
> > > > >
> > > > > happening. My comments were strictly tongue-in-cheek.
> > > > >
> > > > > B--U--T....... since you bring it up -- I am NOT a fan of
> > > > > Siemens-Deuwag equipment. Everything I have ridden has a
> >tendency
> > > > > to hunt, very strong tendency. One car in a train in
> >Sacramento
> > > > > was so bad -- believe it was the artic truck but can't remember
> >for
> > > > > sure -- was so bad that I got off the train fearing derailment at
> > > > > speed. Even the Portland 70% low-floor cars had this tendency
> >when
> > > > >
> > > > > brand new -- haven't been back so I don't know how they have fared
> > > > > over time. Would hope to get up there soon but don't think I
> > > > > shall. The controllers look like Toy Train -- ok if it is a
> >toy
> > > > > train but this is *supposed* to be prototype. And the disc
> > > > > brakes will set up automatically when the train *coasts* below a
> > > > > certain speed -- brake does NOT need to be applied. So
> > > > > motorman has difficulty with slow speeds at traffic points.
> >And
> > > > > the discs can chatter severely when this happens. Nope, Not a
> >fan
> > > > > of deuwag equipment -- You Can Have It.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Portland 70% low-floor cars are utilitarian but have not and
> >shall
> > > > > not ride in the low-floor section -- too vulnerable from side
> > > > > impact ---- MUCH comments about that problem on the transit
> > > > > lists. Portland has The Very Best modern rail cars with those
> > > > > produced by Bombardier -- they are coming up on 20-years old.
> > > > > Portland will lose its appeal for me when those cars are retired.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim__Holland
> > > > >
> > > > > Harold G. wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Why all this criticism of CAF and Elmira?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I liked the CAF cars for Sacramento. Also the Ring line cars for
> > > > > > Amsterdam.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Harold Geissenheimer
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
> > > > > > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > > > > <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > > > > > Date: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:47 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [PRCo] Re: FYI about PAT CAF cars
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> James B. Holland asked:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> CAF -- That's CAlifornia, F-Line, San Francisco.......
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Keerect??
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> try:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> http://www.caf.es/10/instalaciones.asp
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> and it's practically in your back yard, Jim
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Looks like CAF also acquired the former Adtranz plant in Elmira.
> >And
> > > > > >> we all know what got fixed up at this plant.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> John
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> John Swindler wrote:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> CAF also has a plant in Sacramento. Suspect that there is more
> >to
> > > > > >>>> this saga that hasn't come out yet.
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>>> From: "Boris Cefer" <westinghouse at iol.cz>
> > > > > >>>>> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > > > > >>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > > > > >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: [Fwd: FYI about PAT CAF cars]
> > > > > >>>>> Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:39:37 +0100
> > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > >>>>> Any guess what the cost of the trip to Spain and back is?
> > > > > >>>>
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