[PRCo] Re: Fw: North side details

[Harold G.]

Greetings

Most New York City housing authority is good,  Thats because
they have a mixed population of both workers and poor.  Thos
is due to the overall housing shortage.  Many NYCT employees
live in projects.  They dont make them move.  NY pays
no attention to earnings and the results in most cases
are good.

There are no bombed out buildings in NYC projects.
Even land scaping!

Bad one is the Queens Bridge at the Queens end
of the 59th street bridge

Chicago, Newark, St Louis, etc have all had
bad experiences.   But NY has never destroyed a
building.

Lots of good senior citizen projects.  Tarentum and
Wilmerding.   But big projects in Pittsburgh are
a bust.   Terrace Village, Northview Heights.etc.

Harold Geissenheimer



-----Original Message-----
From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams at adelphia.net>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Date: Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:49 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fw: North side details


>The European governments interfere with OTHER aspects of the citizens'
>lives, notably their pocketbooks, but they have left the bulk of the failed
>social engineering to the US of A.  Communism, of course, was the
exception,
>and it is not fondly remembered throughout most of its coverage area.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of Ken &
>Tracie
>Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 12:05 PM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Cc: Scott Greig; Robert Schwerer; paulwey at freecongress.org; Gregory
>Forster; FRANK GRILLO; Eugene Kittredge; Michael Loth
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fw: North side details
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>Off Topic Warning!
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Harold G." <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
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>> Most European cities have not had this urge to redevelop.  Thank God.
>
>The day of the average urban dwelling U.S. citizen being guaranteed
>reasonable stability in a given neighborhood for even one generation is
long
>over.
>
>Do Europeans have the same issues with violent, poverty stricken "victim
>class" people being moved into working class and middle class neighborhoods
>by well intended but misguided social programs? Programs which give the
>former the opportunity to prey on the latter, forcing the latter to flee to
>outlying areas in order to recapture the security and quality of life they
>are accustomed to?
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>I have friends who grew up on Pittsburgh's North Side. Some told me the
>horror stories about "the projects" built below their neighborhood during
>the late 1950s and early 1960s. It started out okay, but by the late 1960s,
>the officials responsible for the housing programs began losing control
over
>this housing project. At first, the crime was confined within the housing
>complex, but it spread into the surrounding  old, established areas.
>
>Only the most politically connected and wealthy can establish themselves in
>a nice neighborhood and have some control over what the local, state or
>federal governments dump upon them!
>
>I am amazed that so many mass transit supporters and environmentalists
align
>themselves politically with people whose social programs destroy good
>quality, high density urban living. The very thing which would be conducive
>to rail transit development. And such development would also protect
>outlying rural areas from urban sprawl.
>
>Try to displace the criminal element and rebuild these "war zones" and you
>are accused of "gentrification." Kick longtime, established homeowners out
>to give their land to either deep pocketed commercial developers or public
>housing projects and it's called "urban renewal."
>
>K.
>
>P.S.- Please do not read anything racist into this! The last neighborhood
we
>had to flee was next to a Section Eight apartment complex full of WHITE
>single parent households....households full of out of control children who
>vandalized and burglarized the longtime homeowners nearby. We were lucky.
>They never bothered us (READ TWO LARGE DOGS!) We got out just in time.
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