[PRCo] Re: 4th

Bill Robb bill937ca at yahoo.ca
Sun Mar 27 03:28:41 EST 2005


My guess is two 7 foot sidewalks. A ten foot traffic
lane and two 8 foot parking lanes. That's a 26 foot
street allowance and 14 feet for sidewalks.

Bill Robb

--- "James B. Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com> wrote:
> Cheeze whiz  --  four ten-foot lanes would fit on a
> street that wide  
> --  wonder how wide the sidewalks were.       Have
> some photos of this 
> area in PCC days  --  wonder about parking allowance
>  --  would be Very 
> Tight if the trolleycars cleared  --  delivery
> trucks probably straddled 
> sidewalk to allow for clearance.
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
> Bill Robb wrote:
> 
> > Yes. According to the maps on Historic Pittsburgh
> both 3rd and 4th 
> > were 40 feet wide in 1929 at Wood Street.       I
> believe this width 
> > is building wall to building wall.
> >
> > Bill Robb
> >
> >
> > --- "Harold G." <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Greetings
> >>
> >> Was third ave the same width? trolleys were still
> >> running there after the war. Harold Geissenheimer
> >
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bill Robb <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Actually I was never there. But I remember the
> red lobster sign. 
> >>> Fourth Avenue fascinated me when I saw it. It's
> probably the 
> >>> narrowest street with streetcars I've ever seen.
> And all the tall 
> >>> narrow buildings on such a narrow street.
> >>
> >>> Here it is in August 1977. The fire is a non
> event.
> >>
> >>> Inspite of all the hose, the fire department
> packed up as quickly as 
> >>> they arrived.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Bill Robb
> >>>
> >>> --- "James wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You must have been there Often! Still There, By
> Chance??
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Bill Robb wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> It was Fourth between Wood and Smithfield.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bill Robb
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "James wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Wasn't Klein's restaurant on Fourth -- or was
> it Third?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jim
> >>>>>
> 
>
http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/Fourth%20Av%20August%201977.jpg
> 
> Jim__Holland
> 
> 
> I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
> 
> down with pantographs ----
> UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
> 
> 
> 
> 


		
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