[PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars

Harold G. transitmgr2 at earthlink.net
Mon Mar 28 13:15:10 EST 2005


Greetings to Boris and Jim

Thanks for the 4000 update.  Jim..which 4000's are saved?
If any?

Harold Geissenheimer

-----Original Message-----
From: Boris Cefer <westinghouse at iol.cz>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Date: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:14 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars


>Jim has made several correct points and I can try to complete the subject.
>
>1) All 4000s received B-3 trucks with shock absorbers. These were assembled
>by the South Hills Car Co from new sideframes, motor cradles, gears, truck
>bolsters and possibly some other parts manufactured by the Hall Industries,
>Pgh. The rest were old and spare parts: main motors, track brakes, drum
>brakes and actuators, wheels, springs. As far as I can say from my head
>knowledge, the Hall Industries manufactured more truck sets than was
>nesessary for the new 4000s and the surplus new trucks were placed under
>some old 17s, including city cars. And there was that swapping already
>mentioned by Jim, but the exact extent of it is unknown to me.
>I don't know when the new truck sets arrived, but the very first car
>possibly got original B-3 trucks built by St. Louis Car Co and overhauled
at
>South Hills.
>
>2) All 4000s and four 1700s got a new wiring.
>
>3) All 4000s received entirely new electrical apparatus manufactured by
>Westinghouse. It included new improved version of accelerator, contactor
>panel with field shunting resistors, line switch, master controller,
>inductive field shunt, overspeed relay, auxiliary panel with solid state
>voltage regulator and lock-out relay. New MG sets were not part of the
>supply and PAAC installed overhauled machines. Also door engines were
>salvaged.
>There were also various improvements like new interior (fluorescent lamps)
>and exterior lights including turn signals, and at least one of the cars
was
>equipped with an air conditioning unit (4006). Entirely new motorman's desk
>was installed. There were also some improvements in heating, but I am not
>familiar with any details.
>
>I don't remember seeing any fingure concerning those cars' weight. Neither
I
>know whether PAAC operated the cars with standard (50 %) or high (67 %)
>field shunting, so the balancing speed is unknown to me.
>
>Boris
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Harold G." <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:53 AM
>Subject: [PRCo] rebuilt pcc cars
>
>
>> Greetings to all...especially Jim, John and Boris
>> Allow this non technical person to ask a question.
>>
>> The several rebuilt PAT PCC cars (4000's?)
>>
>> Did these cars receive any of these characteristics?
>> Was the balancing speed changed?
>> were they rewired?   which trucks?
>> any thing else different?
>>
>> Harold Geissenheimer
>>
>>
>
>




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