[PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars

Boris Cefer westinghouse at iol.cz
Mon Mar 28 13:35:58 EST 2005


Almost all!

Give me some time to find their owners.

B

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold G." <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:15 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars


> Greetings to Boris and Jim
>
> Thanks for the 4000 update.  Jim..which 4000's are saved?
> If any?
>
> Harold Geissenheimer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boris Cefer <westinghouse at iol.cz>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Date: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:14 AM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars
>
>
> >Jim has made several correct points and I can try to complete the
subject.
> >
> >1) All 4000s received B-3 trucks with shock absorbers. These were
assembled
> >by the South Hills Car Co from new sideframes, motor cradles, gears,
truck
> >bolsters and possibly some other parts manufactured by the Hall
Industries,
> >Pgh. The rest were old and spare parts: main motors, track brakes, drum
> >brakes and actuators, wheels, springs. As far as I can say from my head
> >knowledge, the Hall Industries manufactured more truck sets than was
> >nesessary for the new 4000s and the surplus new trucks were placed under
> >some old 17s, including city cars. And there was that swapping already
> >mentioned by Jim, but the exact extent of it is unknown to me.
> >I don't know when the new truck sets arrived, but the very first car
> >possibly got original B-3 trucks built by St. Louis Car Co and overhauled
> at
> >South Hills.
> >
> >2) All 4000s and four 1700s got a new wiring.
> >
> >3) All 4000s received entirely new electrical apparatus manufactured by
> >Westinghouse. It included new improved version of accelerator, contactor
> >panel with field shunting resistors, line switch, master controller,
> >inductive field shunt, overspeed relay, auxiliary panel with solid state
> >voltage regulator and lock-out relay. New MG sets were not part of the
> >supply and PAAC installed overhauled machines. Also door engines were
> >salvaged.
> >There were also various improvements like new interior (fluorescent
lamps)
> >and exterior lights including turn signals, and at least one of the cars
> was
> >equipped with an air conditioning unit (4006). Entirely new motorman's
desk
> >was installed. There were also some improvements in heating, but I am not
> >familiar with any details.
> >
> >I don't remember seeing any fingure concerning those cars' weight.
Neither
> I
> >know whether PAAC operated the cars with standard (50 %) or high (67 %)
> >field shunting, so the balancing speed is unknown to me.
> >
> >Boris
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Harold G." <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
> >To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:53 AM
> >Subject: [PRCo] rebuilt pcc cars
> >
> >
> >> Greetings to all...especially Jim, John and Boris
> >> Allow this non technical person to ask a question.
> >>
> >> The several rebuilt PAT PCC cars (4000's?)
> >>
> >> Did these cars receive any of these characteristics?
> >> Was the balancing speed changed?
> >> were they rewired?   which trucks?
> >> any thing else different?
> >>
> >> Harold Geissenheimer
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>




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