[PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars
Boris Cefer
westinghouse at iol.cz
Mon Mar 28 13:42:32 EST 2005
4001 PAT South Hills Village entrance
4002 Power Superconductor Applications, New Castle PA
4003 Private
4004 Bether Park
4005 The only scrapped???
4006 Columbus OH
4007 PTM
4008 San Francisco Muni
4009 San Francisco Muni
4010 Private
4011 Buckeye Lake OH
4012 Buckeye Lake OH
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold G." <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:15 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars
> Greetings to Boris and Jim
>
> Thanks for the 4000 update. Jim..which 4000's are saved?
> If any?
>
> Harold Geissenheimer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boris Cefer <westinghouse at iol.cz>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Date: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:14 AM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars
>
>
> >Jim has made several correct points and I can try to complete the
subject.
> >
> >1) All 4000s received B-3 trucks with shock absorbers. These were
assembled
> >by the South Hills Car Co from new sideframes, motor cradles, gears,
truck
> >bolsters and possibly some other parts manufactured by the Hall
Industries,
> >Pgh. The rest were old and spare parts: main motors, track brakes, drum
> >brakes and actuators, wheels, springs. As far as I can say from my head
> >knowledge, the Hall Industries manufactured more truck sets than was
> >nesessary for the new 4000s and the surplus new trucks were placed under
> >some old 17s, including city cars. And there was that swapping already
> >mentioned by Jim, but the exact extent of it is unknown to me.
> >I don't know when the new truck sets arrived, but the very first car
> >possibly got original B-3 trucks built by St. Louis Car Co and overhauled
> at
> >South Hills.
> >
> >2) All 4000s and four 1700s got a new wiring.
> >
> >3) All 4000s received entirely new electrical apparatus manufactured by
> >Westinghouse. It included new improved version of accelerator, contactor
> >panel with field shunting resistors, line switch, master controller,
> >inductive field shunt, overspeed relay, auxiliary panel with solid state
> >voltage regulator and lock-out relay. New MG sets were not part of the
> >supply and PAAC installed overhauled machines. Also door engines were
> >salvaged.
> >There were also various improvements like new interior (fluorescent
lamps)
> >and exterior lights including turn signals, and at least one of the cars
> was
> >equipped with an air conditioning unit (4006). Entirely new motorman's
desk
> >was installed. There were also some improvements in heating, but I am not
> >familiar with any details.
> >
> >I don't remember seeing any fingure concerning those cars' weight.
Neither
> I
> >know whether PAAC operated the cars with standard (50 %) or high (67 %)
> >field shunting, so the balancing speed is unknown to me.
> >
> >Boris
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Harold G." <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
> >To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:53 AM
> >Subject: [PRCo] rebuilt pcc cars
> >
> >
> >> Greetings to all...especially Jim, John and Boris
> >> Allow this non technical person to ask a question.
> >>
> >> The several rebuilt PAT PCC cars (4000's?)
> >>
> >> Did these cars receive any of these characteristics?
> >> Was the balancing speed changed?
> >> were they rewired? which trucks?
> >> any thing else different?
> >>
> >> Harold Geissenheimer
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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