[PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars

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 PTM has 4004, not 4007.


---- Boris Cefer <westinghouse at iol.cz> wrote: 
> 4001 PAT South Hills Village entrance
> 4002 Power Superconductor Applications, New Castle PA
> 4003 Private
> 4004 Bether Park
> 4005 The only scrapped???
> 4006 Columbus OH
> 4007 PTM
> 4008 San Francisco Muni
> 4009 San Francisco Muni
> 4010 Private
> 4011 Buckeye Lake OH
> 4012 Buckeye Lake OH
> 
> B
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harold G." <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:15 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars
> 
> 
> > Greetings to Boris and Jim
> >
> > Thanks for the 4000 update.  Jim..which 4000's are saved?
> > If any?
> >
> > Harold Geissenheimer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Boris Cefer <westinghouse at iol.cz>
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > Date: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:14 AM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars
> >
> >
> > >Jim has made several correct points and I can try to complete the
> subject.
> > >
> > >1) All 4000s received B-3 trucks with shock absorbers. These were
> assembled
> > >by the South Hills Car Co from new sideframes, motor cradles, gears,
> truck
> > >bolsters and possibly some other parts manufactured by the Hall
> Industries,
> > >Pgh. The rest were old and spare parts: main motors, track brakes, drum
> > >brakes and actuators, wheels, springs. As far as I can say from my head
> > >knowledge, the Hall Industries manufactured more truck sets than was
> > >nesessary for the new 4000s and the surplus new trucks were placed under
> > >some old 17s, including city cars. And there was that swapping already
> > >mentioned by Jim, but the exact extent of it is unknown to me.
> > >I don't know when the new truck sets arrived, but the very first car
> > >possibly got original B-3 trucks built by St. Louis Car Co and overhauled
> > at
> > >South Hills.
> > >
> > >2) All 4000s and four 1700s got a new wiring.
> > >
> > >3) All 4000s received entirely new electrical apparatus manufactured by
> > >Westinghouse. It included new improved version of accelerator, contactor
> > >panel with field shunting resistors, line switch, master controller,
> > >inductive field shunt, overspeed relay, auxiliary panel with solid state
> > >voltage regulator and lock-out relay. New MG sets were not part of the
> > >supply and PAAC installed overhauled machines. Also door engines were
> > >salvaged.
> > >There were also various improvements like new interior (fluorescent
> lamps)
> > >and exterior lights including turn signals, and at least one of the cars
> > was
> > >equipped with an air conditioning unit (4006). Entirely new motorman's
> desk
> > >was installed. There were also some improvements in heating, but I am not
> > >familiar with any details.
> > >
> > >I don't remember seeing any fingure concerning those cars' weight.
> Neither
> > I
> > >know whether PAAC operated the cars with standard (50 %) or high (67 %)
> > >field shunting, so the balancing speed is unknown to me.
> > >
> > >Boris
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Harold G." <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
> > >To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:53 AM
> > >Subject: [PRCo] rebuilt pcc cars
> > >
> > >
> > >> Greetings to all...especially Jim, John and Boris
> > >> Allow this non technical person to ask a question.
> > >>
> > >> The several rebuilt PAT PCC cars (4000's?)
> > >>
> > >> Did these cars receive any of these characteristics?
> > >> Was the balancing speed changed?
> > >> were they rewired?   which trucks?
> > >> any thing else different?
> > >>
> > >> Harold Geissenheimer
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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