[PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars

[Harold G.]

Greetings

Thanks for the revision.   If PTM has 4004, who has 4007?
Bethel Park has a car.  what number?

Harold Geissenheimer
-----Original Message-----
From: trams at adelphia.net <trams at adelphia.net>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:55 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars


> PTM has 4004, not 4007.
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>---- Boris Cefer <westinghouse at iol.cz> wrote:
>> 4001 PAT South Hills Village entrance
>> 4002 Power Superconductor Applications, New Castle PA
>> 4003 Private
>> 4004 Bether Park
>> 4005 The only scrapped???
>> 4006 Columbus OH
>> 4007 PTM
>> 4008 San Francisco Muni
>> 4009 San Francisco Muni
>> 4010 Private
>> 4011 Buckeye Lake OH
>> 4012 Buckeye Lake OH
>>
>> B
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Harold G." <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 8:15 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars
>>
>>
>> > Greetings to Boris and Jim
>> >
>> > Thanks for the 4000 update.  Jim..which 4000's are saved?
>> > If any?
>> >
>> > Harold Geissenheimer
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Boris Cefer <westinghouse at iol.cz>
>> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> > Date: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:14 AM
>> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: rebuilt pcc cars
>> >
>> >
>> > >Jim has made several correct points and I can try to complete the
>> subject.
>> > >
>> > >1) All 4000s received B-3 trucks with shock absorbers. These were
>> assembled
>> > >by the South Hills Car Co from new sideframes, motor cradles, gears,
>> truck
>> > >bolsters and possibly some other parts manufactured by the Hall
>> Industries,
>> > >Pgh. The rest were old and spare parts: main motors, track brakes,
drum
>> > >brakes and actuators, wheels, springs. As far as I can say from my
head
>> > >knowledge, the Hall Industries manufactured more truck sets than was
>> > >nesessary for the new 4000s and the surplus new trucks were placed
under
>> > >some old 17s, including city cars. And there was that swapping already
>> > >mentioned by Jim, but the exact extent of it is unknown to me.
>> > >I don't know when the new truck sets arrived, but the very first car
>> > >possibly got original B-3 trucks built by St. Louis Car Co and
overhauled
>> > at
>> > >South Hills.
>> > >
>> > >2) All 4000s and four 1700s got a new wiring.
>> > >
>> > >3) All 4000s received entirely new electrical apparatus manufactured
by
>> > >Westinghouse. It included new improved version of accelerator,
contactor
>> > >panel with field shunting resistors, line switch, master controller,
>> > >inductive field shunt, overspeed relay, auxiliary panel with solid
state
>> > >voltage regulator and lock-out relay. New MG sets were not part of the
>> > >supply and PAAC installed overhauled machines. Also door engines were
>> > >salvaged.
>> > >There were also various improvements like new interior (fluorescent
>> lamps)
>> > >and exterior lights including turn signals, and at least one of the
cars
>> > was
>> > >equipped with an air conditioning unit (4006). Entirely new motorman's
>> desk
>> > >was installed. There were also some improvements in heating, but I am
not
>> > >familiar with any details.
>> > >
>> > >I don't remember seeing any fingure concerning those cars' weight.
>> Neither
>> > I
>> > >know whether PAAC operated the cars with standard (50 %) or high (67
%)
>> > >field shunting, so the balancing speed is unknown to me.
>> > >
>> > >Boris
>> > >
>> > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >From: "Harold G." <transitmgr2 at earthlink.net>
>> > >To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> > >Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:53 AM
>> > >Subject: [PRCo] rebuilt pcc cars
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> Greetings to all...especially Jim, John and Boris
>> > >> Allow this non technical person to ask a question.
>> > >>
>> > >> The several rebuilt PAT PCC cars (4000's?)
>> > >>
>> > >> Did these cars receive any of these characteristics?
>> > >> Was the balancing speed changed?
>> > >> were they rewired?   which trucks?
>> > >> any thing else different?
>> > >>
>> > >> Harold Geissenheimer
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
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