[PRCo] Re: "Johnstown" trolley at Kenosha

Harold G. transitmgr2 at earthlink.net
Mon May 23 18:38:05 EDT 2005


To Fred and all.

Kenosha has five ex-TTC PCC cars.
It has always had five, painted as follows:
TTC. Cincinnati, Johnstown, Chicago and Pittsburgh.

They were rebuilt in Iowa at medium expense.
They are kept inside.

On July 4 and holidays they will use five cars.
Harold Geissenheimer
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Schneider <fschnei at supernet.com>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Date: Monday, May 23, 2005 3:36 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: "Johnstown" trolley at Kenosha


>Just a few.  Kenosha only has three cars and they were all rebuilt TTC
4400s.   I think all of them have the advance car light.
>
>When I saw the system I was picking up on minor maintenance issues such as
rotting wooden doors.  Such minor things could be indicative of major
problems to come, especially when you have a one-man shop and only three
cars.  You cannot rebuild a truck with
>one man ... two minimum.  A spare ratio of 10% was standard in the old days
... some companies had fewer than 5% spare cars.  Today 20% to 25% is more
or less normal.   But those numbers simply don't work when you have a vest
pocket system.   If you only
>have three vehicles and you are overhauling one, which could take a year,
and one fails, you are down to one car and prayer.  (Sorry for those who are
offended by prayer.)  Thus a one-car system like Kenosha may need three
spares.   Tacoma Washington is
>running two cars and has one spare ... the cars are new now but they will
age.
>
>hrbran99 at adelphia.net wrote:
>
>> Do all the Kenosha cars have the TTC advance light or just a few? If only
some cars have the advance light, they may have come from other transit
systems in the US. I would like to know if this or any of the Kenosha cars
were ex-Cleveland Transit cars.
>> HrB
>>
>> ---- Mark McGuire <macmarka at netzero.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >   Thanks for the photos Bob! Someone needs to place a giant Pepsi
>> > logo on the front of the car. ;>)
>> >
>
>
>




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