[PRCo] Re: Kenosha continues

[Harold G.]

Greetings to all    agreed.    Harold Geissenheimer
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From: Ken & Tracie <ktjosephson at earthlink.net>
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Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:22 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Kenosha continues


>I am almost positive IRM scrapped the ex-Muni/ex-TTC/ex-KCPS PCC after
>acquiring another ex-KCPS PCC from SEPTA. The former supposedly suffered
far
>more structural deterioration than the car from Philadelphia. I'll cc this
>to Scott Greig and see if he knows which ex-KCPS car was preserved by IRM
>and which was scrapped.
>
>Frank Hicks would know for sure, but I don't have his current e-mail
>address.
>
>Another take on the color schemes used on the Kenosha PCCs. This what some
>Wisconsinites say about them:
>
>1.) The car in traditional TTC colors honors the cars' home property.
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>2.) The "Chicago" car honors the nearest system to Kenosha to use PCCs.
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>3.) The "Cincinnati" car is yellow and green, the Green Bay Packers' team
>colors.
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>4.) The "Johnstown" car honors the Milwaukee streetcar system, as its
scheme
>is close to Milwaukee's one man cars.
>
>5.) The "Pittsburgh" car honors the University of Wisconsin's main Campus
>(Madison) as its colors are red and white.
>
>K.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Fred Schneider" <fschnei at supernet.com>
>To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:02 PM
>Subject: [PRCo] Kenosha continues
>
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>> John Bromley's comments:
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>> First, the 4600s were rebuilt from 4500s, not 4400s which were MU.  The
>> first rebuilding of 4500s was between 1972-1975, and all were done
>> except one car previously scrapped.
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>> The 4600s were outshopped from 1986 to 1992, with only two cars in the
>> latter year before the program was cancelled.
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>> IRM has both ex Cleveland and ex Kansas City PCCs (the latter from San
>> Francisco who bought it from TTC).  I know not which car is actually
>> undergoing restoration - perhaps both, perhaps neither.
>>
>> And Fred's comments:
>>
>> I apologize.  Mea culpa.  I was hasty ... sure the 4600s would have been
>>
>> the 4500s because they were the newest non-MU cars.   I let myself get
>> trapped in an area where I'm not totally familiar.
>>
>> fws
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