[PRCo] Re: Kenosha continues

[Ken & Tracie]

I am almost positive IRM scrapped the ex-Muni/ex-TTC/ex-KCPS PCC after 
acquiring another ex-KCPS PCC from SEPTA. The former supposedly suffered far 
more structural deterioration than the car from Philadelphia. I'll cc this 
to Scott Greig and see if he knows which ex-KCPS car was preserved by IRM 
and which was scrapped.

Frank Hicks would know for sure, but I don't have his current e-mail 
address.

Another take on the color schemes used on the Kenosha PCCs. This what some 
Wisconsinites say about them:

1.) The car in traditional TTC colors honors the cars' home property.

2.) The "Chicago" car honors the nearest system to Kenosha to use PCCs.

3.) The "Cincinnati" car is yellow and green, the Green Bay Packers' team 
colors.

4.) The "Johnstown" car honors the Milwaukee streetcar system, as its scheme 
is close to Milwaukee's one man cars.

5.) The "Pittsburgh" car honors the University of Wisconsin's main Campus 
(Madison) as its colors are red and white.

K.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Schneider" <fschnei at supernet.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:02 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Kenosha continues


> John Bromley's comments:
>
> First, the 4600s were rebuilt from 4500s, not 4400s which were MU.  The
> first rebuilding of 4500s was between 1972-1975, and all were done
> except one car previously scrapped.
>
> The 4600s were outshopped from 1986 to 1992, with only two cars in the
> latter year before the program was cancelled.
>
> IRM has both ex Cleveland and ex Kansas City PCCs (the latter from San
> Francisco who bought it from TTC).  I know not which car is actually
> undergoing restoration - perhaps both, perhaps neither.
>
> And Fred's comments:
>
> I apologize.  Mea culpa.  I was hasty ... sure the 4600s would have been
>
> the 4500s because they were the newest non-MU cars.   I let myself get
> trapped in an area where I'm not totally familiar.
>
> fws
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