[PRCo] Re: PRCo logo

[Edward H. Lybarger]

There's a photo of a 1700 in Washington wearing one of them, too.  It's a
Bob Brown shot of 1719 in front of the Methodist Church on College Street at
Beau, taken the last summer when the cars were going around the block
instead of using the wye.  I think I may have seen another, as well.

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[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of James
B. Holland
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:35 PM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo logo



> Fredbruhn at aol.com wrote:
>
>> This question may have been answered long ago, but I'll ask again.
>> When did PRCo add the winged logo behind the rear door on PCC's? I
>> sort of remember seeing it in 1956 when I was there, but that is
>> fuzzy. Second question, why did the railways feel a need to add a
>> logo? Was it a matter of PR?
>> Thanks, the third Fred, after Doc and the titanium man.
>
>
> James B. Holland wrote:
>
> The first appearance that I have noted is on 1614 in the Old
> Interurban Days about 1952 or 1953 -- photo attached.
>
> This was near the end of a protracted Bankruptcy where all the
> Underlies were *-Paid--Off-* for lack of a better term -- PRCo no
> longer had any obligation to these Unders. So what emerged from the
> bankruptcy was a Real Unencumbered PRCo and thus *-probably-* the
> identity of a Logo was significant, at least in these terms. Seems it
> took Not A Little While to retrofit the cars with the logo -- not
> really a very high priority.
>
> Interesting that on 1954.12.05::::::: """""""The county commissioners
> made public proposed legislation, drafted by a seven-member citizens'
> committee, for creation of a county-wide public transportation
> authority to acquire and consolidate bus and trolley lines. The
> legislation required approval of voters in a referendum scheduled for
> primary election of *-1956.-*""""""" Pg.502 of Lorant's Pittsburgh book.


Forgot to tie this in.       PRCo emerges from bankruptcy without
ongoing obligations to the Unders Only to Face Annihilation through
({[paac]})       Talk about being caught between a rock and a hard
place!!!!!!!

> From pg.504::::::: """1956.10.03 The last steam engine in the
> Pittsburgh area was sent to the scrap heap."""


Just happened to see this as I was looking for the previous reference!!!


> While WW2 prolonged the life of trolleycars nationwide, PRCo in spite
> of bankruptcy fared better than most systems remaining largely intact
> until 1959! Except for the hatred of trolleycars by Pgh. politicos
> (Anne X. Alpern comes to mind -- the middle initial tends to hint at a
> Demon Possessed Spirit!!) I wonder how PRCo would have fared if the
> *-first-* bankruptcy of PRCo had eliminated the obligations to these
> Undies! Profits would have increased, possibly substantially, and the
> system may have seen better maintenance and reinvestment.
>
> Very Interesting To Note that during the second bankruptcy into 1950
> that PRCo was quite well looked after by the CareTakers -- much new
> track was installed, the 1700s (Interurbans and city cars) and
> possibly other PCCs were ordered and not a few other improvements were
> made.


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