[PRCo] Re: [Fwd: Trolleyville USA]

[Fred Schneider]

I find it bewildering in light of all the efforts the Baltimore  
Streetcar Museum went through over the last decade to find a better  
location.   BSM wanted out of the city for the usual litany of  
reasons, declining revenue, no one wants to come to visit city sites,  
and so forth.  Then they identified other sites within the city that  
were deemed suitable.   Now they are staying where they are.  I think  
I saw all of eight or nine people this Saturday when I worked at BSM,  
and of those I don't think any were revenue passengers.  They were  
all members of BSM or Railways to Yesterday and their children.   Two  
weeks earlier I think we lifted eight fares on Saturday.

On the other hand, the lake shore in Cleveland is redeveloped land.   
The Jones Falls in Baltimore is in the middle of a rather dismal area  
that continues to go down hill every year.

I would be happy to hear Herb Brannon's opinions on this move.


On Oct 3, 2005, at 1:34 AM, James B. Holland wrote:

> This is an article that is published in the latest edition of "Lake
> Shore Electric Journal", the newsletter for the group behind
> Trollyeville U.S.A's relocation to Downtown Cleveland. It was  
> mailed in
> the middle of the week of September 26th:
>
> Milestone Reached!
>
> On July 13 Cleveland City Council passed the resolution authorizing  
> the
> City to enter into a lease with Lake Shore Electric Railway Project  
> for
> land to house a car barn. The land in question is at the east end  
> of the
> Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority's Waterfront Line, just
> south of Marginal Road and the Municipal Parking Lots. It is a long
> narrow plot that is ideal for a car barn large enough to house the
> entire Trolleyville USA collection.
>
> This resolution was the culmination of a long process working with the
> City Administration to identify an area that met our technical
> specifications and was accessible to RTA lines. This will enable us to
> move the collection throughout the city. The lease will be for 25  
> years
> at the favorable rate of one dollar a year.
>
> Previously several from Council came out to Trolleyville to ride the
> cars and hear in detail about the proposed project to bring the
> collection to Cleveland. We tried to meet with as many of City Council
> people as possible to introduce this project and ensure support. All
> representatives that we talked with were excited about the  
> potential of
> this project and wanted to actively support it. In particular,
> Councilman Matt Zone made sure to speak in favor of the project in
> session and Councilman Martin Sweeney expressed City Council's
> appreciation to the Brookins Family for working so hard to keep this
> treasure in the Cleveland area.
>
> We now need to perform test borings to determine what kind of  
> foundation
> this building will need along with other engineering studies. Most
> importantly we need to start raising the funds for this activity  
> and for
> the actual construction of the car barn. We are in discussions with
> Congressman LaTourette and the City Administration on how to make this
> happen. However, the first step is to show strong community support
> through donations from those who believe in bringing streetcars  
> back to
> Cleveland.
>
>
>
>
> Jim__Holland
>
>
> I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
>
> down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
>
>
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