[PRCo] Re: McKinney Ave.

[Bob Rathke]

In 1999-2001 I had quarterly business trips to Dallas, and I always took 
some time to go out and ride the McKinney Ave. trolleys.  One of the 
motormen was Pat Greco from Monesson - he graduated from Duquesne University 
a few years before I did, and we had common acquantenances there.

MATA has a couple of ex-TTC PCC's.  The last I heard they plan to run them 
using a turntable (built from a railroad bridge) at one end of the line.

I'll be back in Dallas regularly in 2006, and look forward to visiting MATA. 
There are some good, interesting restaurants along the trolley line.  For 
the newcomers to the list, some of my 1999 MATA photos are posted at:
www.rr-fallenflags.org/lightrail/lightrail.html  Scroll down to the 
"McKinney Avenue Transit Authority" section.

Bob 10/24/05

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 3:00 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: McKinney Ave.


> There is also a branch that was installed within the last two years,
> about half way out the line, which connects to a DART station.   All
> new rail of course.
>
> On Oct 24, 2005, at 1:11 PM, Bob Rathke wrote:
>
>> The McKinney Avenue trolley line began operation in the late
>> 1980's , and
>> nearly all of its rail had been under asphalt since the 1950's.
>> The asphalt
>> was removed in the mid-1980's and trolleys began using that
>> trackage.  I
>> believe that the only new trackage in 1988 was a short stretch on the
>> downtown end of the line, and possibly the trackage in the street
>> leading to
>> the carbarn. Then, in 1999-2000, a section of McKinney Avenue was
>> repaved,
>> and during the street work, new rail was installed in that section
>> of the
>> line. The official M-Line website is at:  www.dart.org/mline.asp
>>
>> McKinney Avenue is a neighborhood/shopping/night life section of
>> Dallas, on
>> the edsge of downtown, and not unlike East Carson St. in Pittsburgh.
>> McKinney Ave. trolleys didn't just happen - they are the result of
>> a big
>> idea, a lot of private and public cooperation, and a strong can-do
>> attitude.
>>
>> Bob 10/24/05
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "James B. Holland" <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 8:08 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: McKinney
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> mtoytrain at bellsouth.net wrote:
>>>> .
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>>>>
>>>>> I think in Dallas they opened a line that had been paved over, saw
>>>>> it  when I traveled on business to Big D.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> James B. Holland wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Apparently some of the McKinney Ave TrolleyCar line uses
>>>> *-reclaimed-*  trackage -- something to that effect is mentioned
>>>> here
>>>> http://www.railwaypreservation.com/vintagetrolley/dallas.htm --
>>>> didn't
>>>> read it all for specific details.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=McKinney+Trolley&btnG=Google
>>>> +Search
>>>> may give you Much More INfo.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When San Francisco extended its F-line along the Embarcadero to Fish
>>> Wharf they said they would use the RR tracks already in existence.
>>> We'Uns Railfans said it wouldn't work because the flanges would
>>> pick.        In Reality, SF meant they would use the row  --  they
>>> ripped it all out and rebuilt it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim__Holland
>>>
>>>
>>> I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
>>>
>>> down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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