[PRCo] Re: PCC2 septa

[Fred Schneider]

I think I've learned it's not worth the effort.

On Sep 9, 2005, at 5:49 AM, James B. Holland wrote:

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>>> -------- Original Message --------
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>>> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 14:12:02 -0700 (PDT)
>>> From: Bill Trolley <pcc2168 at .......
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>>> The old PCC car was faster then the rebuilt PCC car.
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>>> Bill Monaghan
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> By The Way  --  The Above is Quite an Ambiguous observation which  
> deals
> with  *-Perceptions-*  which are greatly influenced by Not A Few
> Factors  --  I would imagine that performance specs might be quite
> similar to a standard PCC.       Problem is in Philly there really  
> might
> not be room to open them up and many of the operators are new to PCCs
> and quite timid and intimidated by the PCCs as well.
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> It was strictly a Tongue In Cheek Forward which I couldn't resist. :-)
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> Reminds me of a fellow on the SF Muni list, Bob, now living in Oz,  
> Very
> Colorful and Very Fascinating.       He adamantly defends his own
> observations that the SF Muni 1101s, ex SLPS 1700s, were Infinitely
> faster than any other Muni equipment and he had tested this and had
> police clock him to verify his claims  --  had one 1101 up to 55- 
> mph on
> Judah  --  if you are At All Familiar With Judah  --  it runs  
> across the
> short blocks, each one being 270-feet from curb to curb not including
> the intersection  --  possibility of Infinitely Too Much Cross Traffic
> to even think of operating a PCC at such a speed.       NO--- 
> WAY,     Jose!
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> At any rate, in the same sentence he is claiming that these 1101s are
> infinitely faster, he also says that he is following one of the 1016s
> and couldn't keep up with it!       He didn't have anything kind to  
> say
> about the Philly rebuilds operating here in SF  --  skinny anemic
> trolleycars not worth the effort in his opinion.       But this goes
> strictly to perceptions and not reality  --  side by side these anemic
> Philly PCCs, the 1101s, and the 1016s would perform almost identically
> in acceleration and braking.       Too bad we don't have 4-tracks on
> Market any more or we could really make a test.
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> But outside of this information, Bob has some excellent  
> observations and
> very imaginative yet practical ideas.       I really enjoyed his posts
> but he has withdrawn from the lists for other pursuits.       I  
> took Bob
> to task on this speed thing and we had a very good natured  
> exchange  --
> but couldn't convince him to reconsider!
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> Jim__Holland
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> I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
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> down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
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