[PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways maps

[John Swindler]

If John were still alive, Fred, he would probably find that the 'rush hour' 
in Lancaster and most other small Pa towns was from 9-4.  The senior 
citizens wait for the first bus after 9 am so that they can ride for free 
(ok, courtesy of all the losers who play the lottery) (:>)

That was also the rational a few years ago for reducing the definition of 
'rush hour'  to only an hour.  Might as well let the senior citizens ride 
for free in the shoulder of the traditional rush hour - because there are 
just not that many other riders any more - in most town.

John



>From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways maps
>Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:47:54 -0400
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>If you will forgive me for picking a few nits here ...  rush hour
>only is a very difficult thing to define and it does vary extensively
>by city.  Unless it has changed, the rush in Jim Holland's adopted
>city begins very early in the morning and very early in the afternoon
>because San Francisco is the Wall Street of the West.  I do not
>pretend to be an expert on how this might have changed with after
>hours trading, but the old rule was that San Francisco stock brokers
>kept the same hours as the New York stock brokers.   The result was a
>rather spread out rush hour.
>
>Pittsburgh, because of the mills has a very heavy early peak in the
>afternoon after 3 PM.  The colleges and universities in Oakland added
>to that crush.   The Shannon tripppers were running in the middle of
>the afternoon.  A now deceased friend of mine, John Bowman, once
>lamented that he went out early in the morning in Pittsburgh and
>found the rush hour was over and the cars were already going back to
>the barns.  He simply wasn't used to that because he came from a town
>where most people went to work somewhere around 8 AM and came home
>around 5 PM.
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>On Sep 15, 2005, at 3:20 PM, James B. Holland wrote:
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> >
> >>> James B. Holland mentioned:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 11 East Street and 43 Neeld are not listed, but 47 Carrick Rush Hour
> >>> Service is listed and that is how it is listed -- all three were
> >>> rush
> >>> hour so why list one and not the others?!?! Not checking for others.
> >>>
> >>
> >> John Swindler wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Routes 11 and 43 were rush hour short turns for 10 and 42
> >> respectively. 47 was a separate routing that just happened to operate
> >> only during the rush hour. Similar to 79 about ten years earlier
> >> (according to Pittsburgh city directory)
> >>
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> >
> > Good Point, John!
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> >> And during the 1950s, was 37 a rush hour only, or  did it have all
> >> day
> >> service??
> >>
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> >
> > Strictly rush hours even while Charleroi and Washington were still in
> > service  --  thus the  SHANNON--CHARLEROI  and  SHANNON--WASHINGTON
> > designations.       These two interurban used to run in tandem,
> > hour and
> > half-hour from Pgh., and ran Limited through Overbrook.       Once
> > SHANNON  was added to the sign, then the cars ran local and local 37
> > service was rush hour only.
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> >
> > Jim__Holland
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> > I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
> >
> > down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
> >
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