[PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways maps

[Fred Schneider]

Oh, you mean I can ride free from 9 to 4 now?  When I get on or when  
I get off or when I show my medicare card?

On Sep 16, 2005, at 7:55 AM, John Swindler wrote:


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> If John were still alive, Fred, he would probably find that the  
> 'rush hour'
> in Lancaster and most other small Pa towns was from 9-4.  The senior
> citizens wait for the first bus after 9 am so that they can ride  
> for free
> (ok, courtesy of all the losers who play the lottery) (:>)
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> That was also the rational a few years ago for reducing the  
> definition of
> 'rush hour'  to only an hour.  Might as well let the senior  
> citizens ride
> for free in the shoulder of the traditional rush hour - because  
> there are
> just not that many other riders any more - in most town.
>
> John
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>> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways maps
>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:47:54 -0400
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>> If you will forgive me for picking a few nits here ...  rush hour
>> only is a very difficult thing to define and it does vary extensively
>> by city.  Unless it has changed, the rush in Jim Holland's adopted
>> city begins very early in the morning and very early in the afternoon
>> because San Francisco is the Wall Street of the West.  I do not
>> pretend to be an expert on how this might have changed with after
>> hours trading, but the old rule was that San Francisco stock brokers
>> kept the same hours as the New York stock brokers.   The result was a
>> rather spread out rush hour.
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>> Pittsburgh, because of the mills has a very heavy early peak in the
>> afternoon after 3 PM.  The colleges and universities in Oakland added
>> to that crush.   The Shannon tripppers were running in the middle of
>> the afternoon.  A now deceased friend of mine, John Bowman, once
>> lamented that he went out early in the morning in Pittsburgh and
>> found the rush hour was over and the cars were already going back to
>> the barns.  He simply wasn't used to that because he came from a town
>> where most people went to work somewhere around 8 AM and came home
>> around 5 PM.
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>> On Sep 15, 2005, at 3:20 PM, James B. Holland wrote:
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>>>>> James B. Holland mentioned:
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>>>>> 11 East Street and 43 Neeld are not listed, but 47 Carrick Rush  
>>>>> Hour
>>>>> Service is listed and that is how it is listed -- all three were
>>>>> rush
>>>>> hour so why list one and not the others?!?! Not checking for  
>>>>> others.
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>>>> John Swindler wrote:
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>>>> Routes 11 and 43 were rush hour short turns for 10 and 42
>>>> respectively. 47 was a separate routing that just happened to  
>>>> operate
>>>> only during the rush hour. Similar to 79 about ten years earlier
>>>> (according to Pittsburgh city directory)
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>>> Good Point, John!
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>>>> And during the 1950s, was 37 a rush hour only, or  did it have all
>>>> day
>>>> service??
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>>> Strictly rush hours even while Charleroi and Washington were  
>>> still in
>>> service  --  thus the  SHANNON--CHARLEROI  and  SHANNON--WASHINGTON
>>> designations.       These two interurban used to run in tandem,
>>> hour and
>>> half-hour from Pgh., and ran Limited through Overbrook.       Once
>>> SHANNON  was added to the sign, then the cars ran local and local 37
>>> service was rush hour only.
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>>> Jim__Holland
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>>> I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
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>>> down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
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