[PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways maps

[Fred Schneider]

Huh?  So who wants to go to New York?  Can't I catch a plane to  
London out of Philly or Charlotte and avoid New York?

On Sep 17, 2005, at 8:25 AM, John Swindler wrote:

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> Yes.   Didn't you turn 65 about 18 months ago???
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> And to avoid using your Medicare card, go to Red Rose Transit for a  
> Senior
> Citizen ID card.  The following link has info on SEPTA fares and  
> hours -
> applys across the state.
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> http://www.septa.org/fares/senior_citizens.html
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> So, Fred, when are you going to learn where to park in Downingtown  
> - so that
> you can ride the 9:17am trip into Philly and connect with SEPTA  
> Newark train
> - then reduced senior citizen NJ Transit fare to New York.  (:>)
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> John
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>> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways maps
>> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:26:21 -0400
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>> Oh, you mean I can ride free from 9 to 4 now?  When I get on or when
>> I get off or when I show my medicare card?
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>> On Sep 16, 2005, at 7:55 AM, John Swindler wrote:
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>>> If John were still alive, Fred, he would probably find that the
>>> 'rush hour'
>>> in Lancaster and most other small Pa towns was from 9-4.  The senior
>>> citizens wait for the first bus after 9 am so that they can ride
>>> for free
>>> (ok, courtesy of all the losers who play the lottery) (:>)
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>>> That was also the rational a few years ago for reducing the
>>> definition of
>>> 'rush hour'  to only an hour.  Might as well let the senior
>>> citizens ride
>>> for free in the shoulder of the traditional rush hour - because
>>> there are
>>> just not that many other riders any more - in most town.
>>>
>>> John
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>>>> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>>>> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways maps
>>>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:47:54 -0400
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>>>> If you will forgive me for picking a few nits here ...  rush hour
>>>> only is a very difficult thing to define and it does vary  
>>>> extensively
>>>> by city.  Unless it has changed, the rush in Jim Holland's adopted
>>>> city begins very early in the morning and very early in the  
>>>> afternoon
>>>> because San Francisco is the Wall Street of the West.  I do not
>>>> pretend to be an expert on how this might have changed with after
>>>> hours trading, but the old rule was that San Francisco stock  
>>>> brokers
>>>> kept the same hours as the New York stock brokers.   The result  
>>>> was a
>>>> rather spread out rush hour.
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>>>> Pittsburgh, because of the mills has a very heavy early peak in the
>>>> afternoon after 3 PM.  The colleges and universities in Oakland  
>>>> added
>>>> to that crush.   The Shannon tripppers were running in the  
>>>> middle of
>>>> the afternoon.  A now deceased friend of mine, John Bowman, once
>>>> lamented that he went out early in the morning in Pittsburgh and
>>>> found the rush hour was over and the cars were already going  
>>>> back to
>>>> the barns.  He simply wasn't used to that because he came from a  
>>>> town
>>>> where most people went to work somewhere around 8 AM and came home
>>>> around 5 PM.
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>>>> On Sep 15, 2005, at 3:20 PM, James B. Holland wrote:
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>>>>>>> James B. Holland mentioned:
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>>>>>>> 11 East Street and 43 Neeld are not listed, but 47 Carrick Rush
>>>>>>> Hour
>>>>>>> Service is listed and that is how it is listed -- all three were
>>>>>>> rush
>>>>>>> hour so why list one and not the others?!?! Not checking for
>>>>>>> others.
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>>>>>> John Swindler wrote:
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>>>>>> Routes 11 and 43 were rush hour short turns for 10 and 42
>>>>>> respectively. 47 was a separate routing that just happened to
>>>>>> operate
>>>>>> only during the rush hour. Similar to 79 about ten years earlier
>>>>>> (according to Pittsburgh city directory)
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>>>>> Good Point, John!
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>>>>>> And during the 1950s, was 37 a rush hour only, or  did it have  
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> day
>>>>>> service??
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>>>>> Strictly rush hours even while Charleroi and Washington were
>>>>> still in
>>>>> service  --  thus the  SHANNON--CHARLEROI  and  SHANNON-- 
>>>>> WASHINGTON
>>>>> designations.       These two interurban used to run in tandem,
>>>>> hour and
>>>>> half-hour from Pgh., and ran Limited through Overbrook.       Once
>>>>> SHANNON  was added to the sign, then the cars ran local and  
>>>>> local 37
>>>>> service was rush hour only.
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>>>>>
>>>>> Jim__Holland
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>>>>> I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
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>>>>> down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
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