[PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways maps

John Swindler j_swindler at hotmail.com
Sun Sep 18 07:53:17 EDT 2005



Can you leave your car safely at the reail stations for extended periods of 
time?  And I don't think there is any senior citizen free fare from local 
transit service Lancaster to Charlotte.  js


>From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways maps
>Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 18:21:37 -0400
>
>Huh?  So who wants to go to New York?  Can't I catch a plane to
>London out of Philly or Charlotte and avoid New York?
>
>On Sep 17, 2005, at 8:25 AM, John Swindler wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Yes.   Didn't you turn 65 about 18 months ago???
> >
> > And to avoid using your Medicare card, go to Red Rose Transit for a
> > Senior
> > Citizen ID card.  The following link has info on SEPTA fares and
> > hours -
> > applys across the state.
> >
> > http://www.septa.org/fares/senior_citizens.html
> >
> > So, Fred, when are you going to learn where to park in Downingtown
> > - so that
> > you can ride the 9:17am trip into Philly and connect with SEPTA
> > Newark train
> > - then reduced senior citizen NJ Transit fare to New York.  (:>)
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> >> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways maps
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 10:26:21 -0400
> >>
> >> Oh, you mean I can ride free from 9 to 4 now?  When I get on or when
> >> I get off or when I show my medicare card?
> >>
> >> On Sep 16, 2005, at 7:55 AM, John Swindler wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> If John were still alive, Fred, he would probably find that the
> >>> 'rush hour'
> >>> in Lancaster and most other small Pa towns was from 9-4.  The senior
> >>> citizens wait for the first bus after 9 am so that they can ride
> >>> for free
> >>> (ok, courtesy of all the losers who play the lottery) (:>)
> >>>
> >>> That was also the rational a few years ago for reducing the
> >>> definition of
> >>> 'rush hour'  to only an hour.  Might as well let the senior
> >>> citizens ride
> >>> for free in the shoulder of the traditional rush hour - because
> >>> there are
> >>> just not that many other riders any more - in most town.
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> >>>> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh Railways maps
> >>>> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:47:54 -0400
> >>>>
> >>>> If you will forgive me for picking a few nits here ...  rush hour
> >>>> only is a very difficult thing to define and it does vary
> >>>> extensively
> >>>> by city.  Unless it has changed, the rush in Jim Holland's adopted
> >>>> city begins very early in the morning and very early in the
> >>>> afternoon
> >>>> because San Francisco is the Wall Street of the West.  I do not
> >>>> pretend to be an expert on how this might have changed with after
> >>>> hours trading, but the old rule was that San Francisco stock
> >>>> brokers
> >>>> kept the same hours as the New York stock brokers.   The result
> >>>> was a
> >>>> rather spread out rush hour.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pittsburgh, because of the mills has a very heavy early peak in the
> >>>> afternoon after 3 PM.  The colleges and universities in Oakland
> >>>> added
> >>>> to that crush.   The Shannon tripppers were running in the
> >>>> middle of
> >>>> the afternoon.  A now deceased friend of mine, John Bowman, once
> >>>> lamented that he went out early in the morning in Pittsburgh and
> >>>> found the rush hour was over and the cars were already going
> >>>> back to
> >>>> the barns.  He simply wasn't used to that because he came from a
> >>>> town
> >>>> where most people went to work somewhere around 8 AM and came home
> >>>> around 5 PM.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 15, 2005, at 3:20 PM, James B. Holland wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> James B. Holland mentioned:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 11 East Street and 43 Neeld are not listed, but 47 Carrick Rush
> >>>>>>> Hour
> >>>>>>> Service is listed and that is how it is listed -- all three were
> >>>>>>> rush
> >>>>>>> hour so why list one and not the others?!?! Not checking for
> >>>>>>> others.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> John Swindler wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Routes 11 and 43 were rush hour short turns for 10 and 42
> >>>>>> respectively. 47 was a separate routing that just happened to
> >>>>>> operate
> >>>>>> only during the rush hour. Similar to 79 about ten years earlier
> >>>>>> (according to Pittsburgh city directory)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Good Point, John!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> And during the 1950s, was 37 a rush hour only, or  did it have
> >>>>>> all
> >>>>>> day
> >>>>>> service??
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Strictly rush hours even while Charleroi and Washington were
> >>>>> still in
> >>>>> service  --  thus the  SHANNON--CHARLEROI  and  SHANNON--
> >>>>> WASHINGTON
> >>>>> designations.       These two interurban used to run in tandem,
> >>>>> hour and
> >>>>> half-hour from Pgh., and ran Limited through Overbrook.       Once
> >>>>> SHANNON  was added to the sign, then the cars ran local and
> >>>>> local 37
> >>>>> service was rush hour only.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jim__Holland
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!
> >>>>>
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