[PRCo] Re: Interurban Accidents

Edward H. Lybarger trams at adelphia.net
Mon Sep 26 17:08:16 EDT 2005


Dwight is a MEMBER of the Museum...he's not OF the Museum!

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of James
B. Holland
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 4:35 PM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Interurban Accidents


Edward H. Lybarger wrote:

> Yes, it apparently happened, probably in July 1952. The Akron RR Club
> took two chartered 1600s down the Charleroi line. But photos? I don't
> know.  I'll have to look through the Bill Gwinn negatives when I have
> time, and unfortunately, this week isn't a good one for me!



Apparently didn't not happen on the Joint PERC // Akron trip as local
car 4387 in revenue service was used by charter riders if they wanted to
take that ride.       Here is that charter information from PRMA files:::

1952.07.27    1614    PRCo    Joint Trip with Akron, OH, RR Club.
Washington Shannon Charleroi, Roscoe, Washington; regular service car
4387 Black Diamond to Donora.
1952.07.27    1646    PRCo    Joint Trip with Akron, OH, RR Club.
Washington Shannon Charleroi, Roscoe, Washington; regular service car
4387 Black Diamond to Donora.
1952.07.27    3761    PRCo    Joint Trip with Akron, OH, RR Club.
Washington Shannon Charleroi, Roscoe, Washington; regular service car
4387 Black Diamond to Donora.
1952.07.27    3769    PRCo    Joint Trip with Akron, OH, RR Club.
Washington Shannon Charleroi, Roscoe, Washington; regular service car
4387 Black Diamond to Donora.

As I Said Previously  --  ALL  this was discussed not long ago on this list.

*-   It was mentioned that work equipment would use the wye and that it
was apparently still in service up to the end.
*-   I asked why a PCC couldn't make the trip then since it was still
usable.
*-   fws responded that the wye could be available to some equipment but
restricted to others.       I have the emails somewhere  --  just need
to find them.

I also wrote about the fantrip above which Strongly suggests that the
PCC did not make the trip to Donora if the railfans used 4387 for that
purpose.

Have been in private correspondence with Dwight Long of the Museum who
also says he has never heard of such  --  but he also adds that it
doesn't mean it didn't happen.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org]On Behalf Of
> mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 10:45 AM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Cc: mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Interurban Accidents
>
>
> Gentlemen ( Fred, Ed, Jim and others)
>
> I am bringing a subject on PCCs in Donora, I remember very clearly a
> PCC in Donora near the end of operation and one that used the wye to
> turn around, this had to be a special fan trip. I know it is true,
> cause I was there when it happened and I ought to know! The picture of
> this after 50 plus years is staill clear in this 64 year old mind! The
> reason for posting this is to see if anyone else remembers or even has
> a picture?
>
> Jerry


Jim__Holland


I__Like__Ike.......And__PCCs!!

down with pantographs ---- UP___WITH___TROLLEYPOLES!!!!!!!







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