[PRCo] Re: Experimental B3 trucks

Holland Electric Rwy. Op. H.E.R.O. -- Import SPTC 1.48 Models // James B. Holland PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com
Thu Apr 6 07:01:38 EDT 2006


The modification about 1945 might be related to this comment in the 
Notes section of Lind's book:::::::

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
HowSomeEver    ----    the  <Note>  in Lind's book to the Truck Job# for 
these Two Experimentals confirms fws3 comments below, and I quote:   
"""Another report states the trucks were shipped in 1944."""
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So it seems that the original trucks arrived in Pgh not long after the 
1200s themselves and were possibly shipped back to SLCCo for  <Upgrade>  
ca--1944  and then were returned to PRCo!       If these trucks were 
reasonably successful, wonder why the cars didn't keep the trucks with 
subsequent assignment to Tunnel for tripper service at least to Shannon!?!

It is difficult to clearly see the trucks under 1613 and 1614 in the 
early photos but the B3 trucks, even though very near the prototype, 
must have been unique enough to cause maintenance concerns as they were 
removed from these cars probably after the 1953 cutback of the 
Interurbans to within Allegheny County Only!



Boris Cefer wrote:
.

> My theory is that the first two prototypes were modified with single 
> spring bolster pots around 1945 and this way the prototypes for 1613 
> and 1614 were obtained. One of these modified trucks was photographed 
> at SLCCo in Sept.-1945.
>
> One of the original trucks (that one with large upper frame and rubber 
> springs) was also temporarily rebuilt with a steel-rubber spring 
> combination. A photo of it was attached to one of my recent contributions.
>
> 100 people, 100 theories!
>
> B
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Holland Electric Rwy. Op. H.E.R.O. -- Import SPTC 1.48 Models //
> James B. Holland"
>
>> May we deduce the following???????
>>
>>
>> Three  (3)  Prototypes:::::::
>>
>>            +++   Double Spring Pot Each Side
>>                        Upper Frame Carries
>>                        Bolster & Motor support
>>                        Wheel Tread Brake Shoes
>>                        One  (1)  Set Under 1200s
>>
>>            +++   Double Spring Pot Each Side
>>                        Separate Motor Mount
>>                        Drum Brakes
>>                        One  (1)  Set Under 1200s
>>
>>            +++   B3 Nearly Identical to
>>                        Final Prototype.
>>                        Two  (2)  Sets, One Each Under
>>                        1613 and 1614.
>>
>> Four Sets of Experimental B3 Trucks
>>            Please See Above.
>>
>>
>> Because 1225 has wheel tread brake shoes  
>> http://206.103.49.193/pitts/htm/jfp073.htm  may we deduce that this 
>> set is The Very First Set of Experimental B3 trucks?
>


Jim__Holland


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