[PRCo] Re: [Fwd: Re: PRCo colors]

[Derrick J Brashear]

On Sat, 22 Jul 2006, James B. Holland wrote:

> MANY   emails to the list get dropped.......

i fixed a glitch in the list software, and there might be one more. i plan 
to look when i get back to Pgh tonight, but, my short term plan is 
actually to completely reconstruct the machine which hosts the list.


> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Re: PRCo colors
> Date: 	Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:01:21 -0700
> From: 	James B. Holland <PRCoPCC at P-R-Co.com>
> Organization: 	Holland Electric Rwy. Op. (H.E.R.O.) - SPTC Transit Models
> To: 	pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> References: 	<44C0E9CA.7090803 at pitt.edu> <44C1449C.9020701 at P-R-Co.com>
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> James B. Holland wrote:
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> >According to John Bromley's listing of paint schemes, At Least the
> following 17s sported the Half n' Half:::
> >
> >1705
> >1753
> >1777
> >1787
> >1789
> >1791
> >
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> >Jim___Holland
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> >
> >Matt Barry wrote:
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> >>I can't say for sure that I ever saw a 1700 series car painted in all
> cream top, and all red bottom -- until now.
> >>
> >>http://www.liquala.com/pcc-257.html
> >>
> .
> Apologies, Matt! I get 150 to 200 emails daily and in speed reading I
> didn't notice you limited your observation to 1700s in Half n' Half.
> .
> John's listing above is gleaned [Mostly] from available photographs and
> John has Many he has taken personally as well as purchased over the
> years, but this is not necessarily an inclusive listing. PRMA would
> Often post listings of available cars in their newsletters going into
> the ({[pat]}) era as the PCCs were disappearing fast and PRMA Often
> listed paint styles for each vehicle -- Not A Small Undertaking.
> .
> I have the July-1966 issue of PRMA Trolley Fare in front of me (first
> one I pulled from the archives AND one containing the above mentioned
> listing!!) As Of 19660615, the six 17s listed above are the only ones
> still in the *--Simplified--* (as PRMA calls the Half n' Half) but it is
> *--Possible--* that some of those already painted in ({[pat]}) colors
> had been in the Simplified as well.
> .
> As of 19660615 there were 48 PCCs in the Simplified scheme with the
> lowest number being 1419 (1400 is the lowest car on the roster!)
> .
> And as of this date Only 15 cars are in ({[pat]}) colors::
> 1451 1488 1496 1548 1556
> 1605 1607 1623 1635 1661
> 1678 1702 1762 1767 1797.
> .
> Thus, ALL other PCCs are still in some form of PRCo paint! This issue
> also lists a New Style Red Front as well as Original Red Front -- how
> the latter can be determined I do Not know -- and at this moment I don't
> know what New Style Red Front means!
> .
> Original Red Front cars are only 1408 and 1602!!
> .
> There is also a listing for Partial Simplified (roof only) which
> includes cars 1406 1436 1518 1527 1547 1555 1602 1653 1685 1693 1696.
> One Car -- 1602 -- pulls double duty as Original Red Front with Upper
> Body Only as Partial Simplified but 1653 listed here is Not listed in
> the V front paint scheme even though we saw it was at one time --
> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/1653-58GrantBldg022764.JPG
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> -- but 1653 IS listed as having New Style Red Front so I assume that as
> of 19660615 that the V is gone!!!
> .
> Two cars are listed as having Center-Number White Front -- 1474 1748!
> .
> There were still 25 cars that had the Rear Green and White Safety Signs!!
> .
> There is a listing for White Front Cars which I assume to be the
> Hourglass as 17s were delivered.
> .
> There was a total of 256__Active cars,
> 101 at Craft and
> 155 at Tunnel.
> There were 27 cars out of service or in process of being
> scrapped for a total of 283 PCCs on the property.
> .
> PCCs 1538 and 1688 were never used by ({[pat]}), were extensively
> stripped at Homewood, stored dead at Craft.
> .
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> Jim___Holland
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