[PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?

[John Swindler]

>From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:22:13 -0500
>
>Jerry:
>
>I'm going to admit to limited intelligence in this area and leave
>others fill in the blanks.   I'll start and admit that I know little
>on what has happened over the last 30 odd years.
>
>There is a regauged and operable PRC 1400 at Seashore and it has been
>there since the middle 1960s.  It looked nice when first repainted at
>Seashore circa 1969 but looked pretty bad when I saw it when we took
>Boris up two years ago.
>

1440

>I think Worthington had a Pittsburgh PCC but I have limited knowledge
>of what has happened to much of their fleet other than the knowledge
>that the steam types have gained control at the expense of the
>trolley enthusiasts.
>The restored CD&M interurban, the C&LE Red Devil, and the restored
>Columbus city car have been reported in shambles.   The Kansas City
>Birney was stripped so that Fort Smith, Ark. could get the electrical
>and mechanical parts to restore a Fort Smith Light and Power Co.
>body.   So if there is a Pittsburgh car at Worthington ... well, you
>get the picture.
>
>There was someone else out in Ohio that had some Shaker Heights and
>possibly some Pittsburgh cars.

Cars to Worthington; to Northern Ohio; and to private collector

And two of the 4000s went to San Francisco

>
>And there is our friend Ed Mitchell down in Uniontown who was
>creating his own ferrous-oxide deposit.
>
>And you know PTM has 1138, 1467, 1614 (1799), 1711.    Did I miss
>anything.   That's probably already two cars too many.    Oh, yes,
>the 4000 series rebuild ... three cars too many.
>

4004


>In deference to PCCs, at least they can be made to run in the future,
>which is more than we can say for cars built after 1970 with
>electronics.   Those new LRVs in museums will simply be static
>displays unless the museums have the software and computers to debug
>them when the break down, and the computer chips, control cards, and
>so forth.   It will not be like casting new bronze control tips to
>keep a K-35 controller working.    The Birney I'm responsible for in
>Manheim burnt out a resistance grid on Saturday ... I  can find a
>replacement for that and keep the car running.   But a simple failure
>on some of those newer cars will be a permanent failure.
>
>fws
>


PCCs that survived PAT scrapping and MIGHT still be around include:  1626, 
1632, 1639, 1644, 1650, 1661, 1669, 1703, 1705, 1711, 1713, 1724, 1728, 
1736, 1737, 1738, 1741, 1745, 1750, 1754, 1771, 1772, 1773, 1799/1613, 1976, 
4001, 4002, 4003, 4004, 4006, 40007, 4008, 4009, 4010, 4011, and 4012

plus 1138 and 1440 and 1467

But as Fred says, there are others with a lot beter handle on this.


>
>
>On Nov 14, 2006, at 3:45 PM, <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > In as much as there are no "active" or operating PCC street Cars in
> > Pittsburgh are there any of the PRC PCCs active anywhere,  Also
> > what Trolley museums would one be able to find a car.  I understand
> > the Heinz Museum? in downtown Pittsburgh has a refurbished car/
> > Any response
> > is appreciated.
> >
> > Jerry Matsick
> > in Trackless Jacksonville
> >
> >
>
>

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