[PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?

[Ken & Tracie]

Worthington has 1644, the 1600 at PTM is 1613 and somebody has 1713, but I 
forget where it is.

K.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Swindler" <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:14 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?


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>>From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?
>>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:22:13 -0500
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>>Jerry:
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>>I'm going to admit to limited intelligence in this area and leave
>>others fill in the blanks.   I'll start and admit that I know little
>>on what has happened over the last 30 odd years.
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>>There is a regauged and operable PRC 1400 at Seashore and it has been
>>there since the middle 1960s.  It looked nice when first repainted at
>>Seashore circa 1969 but looked pretty bad when I saw it when we took
>>Boris up two years ago.
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> 1440
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>>I think Worthington had a Pittsburgh PCC but I have limited knowledge
>>of what has happened to much of their fleet other than the knowledge
>>that the steam types have gained control at the expense of the
>>trolley enthusiasts.
>>The restored CD&M interurban, the C&LE Red Devil, and the restored
>>Columbus city car have been reported in shambles.   The Kansas City
>>Birney was stripped so that Fort Smith, Ark. could get the electrical
>>and mechanical parts to restore a Fort Smith Light and Power Co.
>>body.   So if there is a Pittsburgh car at Worthington ... well, you
>>get the picture.
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>>There was someone else out in Ohio that had some Shaker Heights and
>>possibly some Pittsburgh cars.
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> Cars to Worthington; to Northern Ohio; and to private collector
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> And two of the 4000s went to San Francisco
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>>And there is our friend Ed Mitchell down in Uniontown who was
>>creating his own ferrous-oxide deposit.
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>>And you know PTM has 1138, 1467, 1614 (1799), 1711.    Did I miss
>>anything.   That's probably already two cars too many.    Oh, yes,
>>the 4000 series rebuild ... three cars too many.
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> 4004
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>>In deference to PCCs, at least they can be made to run in the future,
>>which is more than we can say for cars built after 1970 with
>>electronics.   Those new LRVs in museums will simply be static
>>displays unless the museums have the software and computers to debug
>>them when the break down, and the computer chips, control cards, and
>>so forth.   It will not be like casting new bronze control tips to
>>keep a K-35 controller working.    The Birney I'm responsible for in
>>Manheim burnt out a resistance grid on Saturday ... I  can find a
>>replacement for that and keep the car running.   But a simple failure
>>on some of those newer cars will be a permanent failure.
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>>fws
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> PCCs that survived PAT scrapping and MIGHT still be around include:  1626,
> 1632, 1639, 1644, 1650, 1661, 1669, 1703, 1705, 1711, 1713, 1724, 1728,
> 1736, 1737, 1738, 1741, 1745, 1750, 1754, 1771, 1772, 1773, 1799/1613, 
> 1976,
> 4001, 4002, 4003, 4004, 4006, 40007, 4008, 4009, 4010, 4011, and 4012
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> plus 1138 and 1440 and 1467
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> But as Fred says, there are others with a lot beter handle on this.
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>>On Nov 14, 2006, at 3:45 PM, <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net> wrote:
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>> > In as much as there are no "active" or operating PCC street Cars in
>> > Pittsburgh are there any of the PRC PCCs active anywhere,  Also
>> > what Trolley museums would one be able to find a car.  I understand
>> > the Heinz Museum? in downtown Pittsburgh has a refurbished car/
>> > Any response
>> > is appreciated.
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>> > Jerry Matsick
>> > in Trackless Jacksonville
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