[PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?

[Boris Cefer]

1713 is owned by Ed Miller.

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From: "Ken & Tracie" <ktjosephson at earthlink.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:05 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?


> Worthington has 1644, the 1600 at PTM is 1613 and somebody has 1713, but I
> forget where it is.
>
> K.
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> From: "John Swindler" <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:14 AM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?
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> >>From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> >>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?
> >>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:22:13 -0500
> >>
> >>Jerry:
> >>
> >>I'm going to admit to limited intelligence in this area and leave
> >>others fill in the blanks.   I'll start and admit that I know little
> >>on what has happened over the last 30 odd years.
> >>
> >>There is a regauged and operable PRC 1400 at Seashore and it has been
> >>there since the middle 1960s.  It looked nice when first repainted at
> >>Seashore circa 1969 but looked pretty bad when I saw it when we took
> >>Boris up two years ago.
> >>
> >
> > 1440
> >
> >>I think Worthington had a Pittsburgh PCC but I have limited knowledge
> >>of what has happened to much of their fleet other than the knowledge
> >>that the steam types have gained control at the expense of the
> >>trolley enthusiasts.
> >>The restored CD&M interurban, the C&LE Red Devil, and the restored
> >>Columbus city car have been reported in shambles.   The Kansas City
> >>Birney was stripped so that Fort Smith, Ark. could get the electrical
> >>and mechanical parts to restore a Fort Smith Light and Power Co.
> >>body.   So if there is a Pittsburgh car at Worthington ... well, you
> >>get the picture.
> >>
> >>There was someone else out in Ohio that had some Shaker Heights and
> >>possibly some Pittsburgh cars.
> >
> > Cars to Worthington; to Northern Ohio; and to private collector
> >
> > And two of the 4000s went to San Francisco
> >
> >>
> >>And there is our friend Ed Mitchell down in Uniontown who was
> >>creating his own ferrous-oxide deposit.
> >>
> >>And you know PTM has 1138, 1467, 1614 (1799), 1711.    Did I miss
> >>anything.   That's probably already two cars too many.    Oh, yes,
> >>the 4000 series rebuild ... three cars too many.
> >>
> >
> > 4004
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> >>In deference to PCCs, at least they can be made to run in the future,
> >>which is more than we can say for cars built after 1970 with
> >>electronics.   Those new LRVs in museums will simply be static
> >>displays unless the museums have the software and computers to debug
> >>them when the break down, and the computer chips, control cards, and
> >>so forth.   It will not be like casting new bronze control tips to
> >>keep a K-35 controller working.    The Birney I'm responsible for in
> >>Manheim burnt out a resistance grid on Saturday ... I  can find a
> >>replacement for that and keep the car running.   But a simple failure
> >>on some of those newer cars will be a permanent failure.
> >>
> >>fws
> >>
> >
> >
> > PCCs that survived PAT scrapping and MIGHT still be around include:
1626,
> > 1632, 1639, 1644, 1650, 1661, 1669, 1703, 1705, 1711, 1713, 1724, 1728,
> > 1736, 1737, 1738, 1741, 1745, 1750, 1754, 1771, 1772, 1773, 1799/1613,
> > 1976,
> > 4001, 4002, 4003, 4004, 4006, 40007, 4008, 4009, 4010, 4011, and 4012
> >
> > plus 1138 and 1440 and 1467
> >
> > But as Fred says, there are others with a lot beter handle on this.
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>On Nov 14, 2006, at 3:45 PM, <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > In as much as there are no "active" or operating PCC street Cars in
> >> > Pittsburgh are there any of the PRC PCCs active anywhere,  Also
> >> > what Trolley museums would one be able to find a car.  I understand
> >> > the Heinz Museum? in downtown Pittsburgh has a refurbished car/
> >> > Any response
> >> > is appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Jerry Matsick
> >> > in Trackless Jacksonville
> >> >
> >> >
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> >>
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