[PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?

[John Swindler]

Could it be one of the Shaker cars from Trolleyville?



>From: <hrbran99 at adelphia.net>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>CC: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?
>Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:46:52 -0500
>
>There does appear (in the dim light under the Terminal Tower) to be one 
>PRCo/PAT PCC stored under the Terminal Tower in downtown Cleveland. I am 
>waiting until I get some really "free" time to investigate further. Anyone 
>want to come along?? The dark recesses of the Terminal Tower are a real 
>'treasure trove' of restored streetcars. It looks like, through the dim 
>half-light,  the sacred streetcar burial grounds.
>
>Also, FYI, in a move bordering on total insanity, the Greater Cleveland 
>Regional Transit Authority is considering installing "gongs" on the buses. 
>They can really think of creative ways to spend the taxpayers hard-earned 
>money!  Will keep you posted on this gem!
>
>Let me know if anyone wants to visit the sacred ground under the Terminal 
>Tower.
>--
>HrB
>
>---- Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Jerry:
> >
> > I'm going to admit to limited intelligence in this area and leave
> > others fill in the blanks.   I'll start and admit that I know little
> > on what has happened over the last 30 odd years.
> >
> > There is a regauged and operable PRC 1400 at Seashore and it has been
> > there since the middle 1960s.  It looked nice when first repainted at
> > Seashore circa 1969 but looked pretty bad when I saw it when we took
> > Boris up two years ago.
> >
> > I think Worthington had a Pittsburgh PCC but I have limited knowledge
> > of what has happened to much of their fleet other than the knowledge
> > that the steam types have gained control at the expense of the
> > trolley enthusiasts.
> > The restored CD&M interurban, the C&LE Red Devil, and the restored
> > Columbus city car have been reported in shambles.   The Kansas City
> > Birney was stripped so that Fort Smith, Ark. could get the electrical
> > and mechanical parts to restore a Fort Smith Light and Power Co.
> > body.   So if there is a Pittsburgh car at Worthington ... well, you
> > get the picture.
> >
> > There was someone else out in Ohio that had some Shaker Heights and
> > possibly some Pittsburgh cars.
> >
> > And there is our friend Ed Mitchell down in Uniontown who was
> > creating his own ferrous-oxide deposit.
> >
> > And you know PTM has 1138, 1467, 1614 (1799), 1711.    Did I miss
> > anything.   That's probably already two cars too many.    Oh, yes,
> > the 4000 series rebuild ... three cars too many.
> >
> > In deference to PCCs, at least they can be made to run in the future,
> > which is more than we can say for cars built after 1970 with
> > electronics.   Those new LRVs in museums will simply be static
> > displays unless the museums have the software and computers to debug
> > them when the break down, and the computer chips, control cards, and
> > so forth.   It will not be like casting new bronze control tips to
> > keep a K-35 controller working.    The Birney I'm responsible for in
> > Manheim burnt out a resistance grid on Saturday ... I  can find a
> > replacement for that and keep the car running.   But a simple failure
> > on some of those newer cars will be a permanent failure.
> >
> > fws
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 14, 2006, at 3:45 PM, <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> > > In as much as there are no "active" or operating PCC street Cars in
> > > Pittsburgh are there any of the PRC PCCs active anywhere,  Also
> > > what Trolley museums would one be able to find a car.  I understand
> > > the Heinz Museum? in downtown Pittsburgh has a refurbished car/
> > > Any response
> > > is appreciated.
> > >
> > > Jerry Matsick
> > > in Trackless Jacksonville
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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