[PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?
hrbran99 at adelphia.net
hrbran99 at adelphia.net
Wed Nov 15 12:46:52 EST 2006
There does appear (in the dim light under the Terminal Tower) to be one PRCo/PAT PCC stored under the Terminal Tower in downtown Cleveland. I am waiting until I get some really "free" time to investigate further. Anyone want to come along?? The dark recesses of the Terminal Tower are a real 'treasure trove' of restored streetcars. It looks like, through the dim half-light, the sacred streetcar burial grounds.
Also, FYI, in a move bordering on total insanity, the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority is considering installing "gongs" on the buses. They can really think of creative ways to spend the taxpayers hard-earned money! Will keep you posted on this gem!
Let me know if anyone wants to visit the sacred ground under the Terminal Tower.
--
HrB
---- Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net> wrote:
> Jerry:
>
> I'm going to admit to limited intelligence in this area and leave
> others fill in the blanks. I'll start and admit that I know little
> on what has happened over the last 30 odd years.
>
> There is a regauged and operable PRC 1400 at Seashore and it has been
> there since the middle 1960s. It looked nice when first repainted at
> Seashore circa 1969 but looked pretty bad when I saw it when we took
> Boris up two years ago.
>
> I think Worthington had a Pittsburgh PCC but I have limited knowledge
> of what has happened to much of their fleet other than the knowledge
> that the steam types have gained control at the expense of the
> trolley enthusiasts.
> The restored CD&M interurban, the C&LE Red Devil, and the restored
> Columbus city car have been reported in shambles. The Kansas City
> Birney was stripped so that Fort Smith, Ark. could get the electrical
> and mechanical parts to restore a Fort Smith Light and Power Co.
> body. So if there is a Pittsburgh car at Worthington ... well, you
> get the picture.
>
> There was someone else out in Ohio that had some Shaker Heights and
> possibly some Pittsburgh cars.
>
> And there is our friend Ed Mitchell down in Uniontown who was
> creating his own ferrous-oxide deposit.
>
> And you know PTM has 1138, 1467, 1614 (1799), 1711. Did I miss
> anything. That's probably already two cars too many. Oh, yes,
> the 4000 series rebuild ... three cars too many.
>
> In deference to PCCs, at least they can be made to run in the future,
> which is more than we can say for cars built after 1970 with
> electronics. Those new LRVs in museums will simply be static
> displays unless the museums have the software and computers to debug
> them when the break down, and the computer chips, control cards, and
> so forth. It will not be like casting new bronze control tips to
> keep a K-35 controller working. The Birney I'm responsible for in
> Manheim burnt out a resistance grid on Saturday ... I can find a
> replacement for that and keep the car running. But a simple failure
> on some of those newer cars will be a permanent failure.
>
> fws
>
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2006, at 3:45 PM, <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > In as much as there are no "active" or operating PCC street Cars in
> > Pittsburgh are there any of the PRC PCCs active anywhere, Also
> > what Trolley museums would one be able to find a car. I understand
> > the Heinz Museum? in downtown Pittsburgh has a refurbished car/
> > Any response
> > is appreciated.
> >
> > Jerry Matsick
> > in Trackless Jacksonville
> >
> >
>
>
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