[PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?

mtoytrain at bellsouth.net mtoytrain at bellsouth.net
Tue Nov 14 17:14:02 EST 2006


Fred
Thanks again for a super response!    Man to get back to the days of just cruising in from Washington or Charleroi on an interurban!  Or even better riding a low floor car from Donora to New Eagle and back!  

Jerry Matsick
> 
> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> Date: 2006/11/14 Tue PM 04:22:13 EST
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?
> 
> Jerry:
> 
> I'm going to admit to limited intelligence in this area and leave  
> others fill in the blanks.   I'll start and admit that I know little  
> on what has happened over the last 30 odd years.
> 
> There is a regauged and operable PRC 1400 at Seashore and it has been  
> there since the middle 1960s.  It looked nice when first repainted at  
> Seashore circa 1969 but looked pretty bad when I saw it when we took  
> Boris up two years ago.
> 
> I think Worthington had a Pittsburgh PCC but I have limited knowledge  
> of what has happened to much of their fleet other than the knowledge  
> that the steam types have gained control at the expense of the  
> trolley enthusiasts.
> The restored CD&M interurban, the C&LE Red Devil, and the restored  
> Columbus city car have been reported in shambles.   The Kansas City  
> Birney was stripped so that Fort Smith, Ark. could get the electrical  
> and mechanical parts to restore a Fort Smith Light and Power Co.  
> body.   So if there is a Pittsburgh car at Worthington ... well, you  
> get the picture.
> 
> There was someone else out in Ohio that had some Shaker Heights and  
> possibly some Pittsburgh cars.
> 
> And there is our friend Ed Mitchell down in Uniontown who was  
> creating his own ferrous-oxide deposit.
> 
> And you know PTM has 1138, 1467, 1614 (1799), 1711.    Did I miss  
> anything.   That's probably already two cars too many.    Oh, yes,  
> the 4000 series rebuild ... three cars too many.
> 
> In deference to PCCs, at least they can be made to run in the future,  
> which is more than we can say for cars built after 1970 with  
> electronics.   Those new LRVs in museums will simply be static  
> displays unless the museums have the software and computers to debug  
> them when the break down, and the computer chips, control cards, and  
> so forth.   It will not be like casting new bronze control tips to  
> keep a K-35 controller working.    The Birney I'm responsible for in  
> Manheim burnt out a resistance grid on Saturday ... I  can find a  
> replacement for that and keep the car running.   But a simple failure  
> on some of those newer cars will be a permanent failure.
> 
> fws
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 14, 2006, at 3:45 PM, <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> 
> > In as much as there are no "active" or operating PCC street Cars in  
> > Pittsburgh are there any of the PRC PCCs active anywhere,  Also  
> > what Trolley museums would one be able to find a car.  I understand  
> > the Heinz Museum? in downtown Pittsburgh has a refurbished car/    
> > Any response
> > is appreciated.
> >
> > Jerry Matsick
> > in Trackless Jacksonville
> >
> >
> 
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