[PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?

hrbran99 at adelphia.net hrbran99 at adelphia.net
Thu Nov 16 10:40:30 EST 2006


Might be..............that's why I need to get back to the area where it is parked to see exactly what it is.
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HrB

---- John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> 
> 
> Could it be one of the Shaker cars from Trolleyville?
> 
> 
> 
> >From: <hrbran99 at adelphia.net>
> >Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >CC: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> >Subject: [PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?
> >Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:46:52 -0500
> >
> >There does appear (in the dim light under the Terminal Tower) to be one 
> >PRCo/PAT PCC stored under the Terminal Tower in downtown Cleveland. I am 
> >waiting until I get some really "free" time to investigate further. Anyone 
> >want to come along?? The dark recesses of the Terminal Tower are a real 
> >'treasure trove' of restored streetcars. It looks like, through the dim 
> >half-light,  the sacred streetcar burial grounds.
> >
> >Also, FYI, in a move bordering on total insanity, the Greater Cleveland 
> >Regional Transit Authority is considering installing "gongs" on the buses. 
> >They can really think of creative ways to spend the taxpayers hard-earned 
> >money!  Will keep you posted on this gem!
> >
> >Let me know if anyone wants to visit the sacred ground under the Terminal 
> >Tower.
> >--
> >HrB
> >
> >---- Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > Jerry:
> > >
> > > I'm going to admit to limited intelligence in this area and leave
> > > others fill in the blanks.   I'll start and admit that I know little
> > > on what has happened over the last 30 odd years.
> > >
> > > There is a regauged and operable PRC 1400 at Seashore and it has been
> > > there since the middle 1960s.  It looked nice when first repainted at
> > > Seashore circa 1969 but looked pretty bad when I saw it when we took
> > > Boris up two years ago.
> > >
> > > I think Worthington had a Pittsburgh PCC but I have limited knowledge
> > > of what has happened to much of their fleet other than the knowledge
> > > that the steam types have gained control at the expense of the
> > > trolley enthusiasts.
> > > The restored CD&M interurban, the C&LE Red Devil, and the restored
> > > Columbus city car have been reported in shambles.   The Kansas City
> > > Birney was stripped so that Fort Smith, Ark. could get the electrical
> > > and mechanical parts to restore a Fort Smith Light and Power Co.
> > > body.   So if there is a Pittsburgh car at Worthington ... well, you
> > > get the picture.
> > >
> > > There was someone else out in Ohio that had some Shaker Heights and
> > > possibly some Pittsburgh cars.
> > >
> > > And there is our friend Ed Mitchell down in Uniontown who was
> > > creating his own ferrous-oxide deposit.
> > >
> > > And you know PTM has 1138, 1467, 1614 (1799), 1711.    Did I miss
> > > anything.   That's probably already two cars too many.    Oh, yes,
> > > the 4000 series rebuild ... three cars too many.
> > >
> > > In deference to PCCs, at least they can be made to run in the future,
> > > which is more than we can say for cars built after 1970 with
> > > electronics.   Those new LRVs in museums will simply be static
> > > displays unless the museums have the software and computers to debug
> > > them when the break down, and the computer chips, control cards, and
> > > so forth.   It will not be like casting new bronze control tips to
> > > keep a K-35 controller working.    The Birney I'm responsible for in
> > > Manheim burnt out a resistance grid on Saturday ... I  can find a
> > > replacement for that and keep the car running.   But a simple failure
> > > on some of those newer cars will be a permanent failure.
> > >
> > > fws
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 14, 2006, at 3:45 PM, <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In as much as there are no "active" or operating PCC street Cars in
> > > > Pittsburgh are there any of the PRC PCCs active anywhere,  Also
> > > > what Trolley museums would one be able to find a car.  I understand
> > > > the Heinz Museum? in downtown Pittsburgh has a refurbished car/
> > > > Any response
> > > > is appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry Matsick
> > > > in Trackless Jacksonville
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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