[PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?

[hrbran99 at adelphia.net]

Who is Ed Miller? Where is he located and what is he planning for 1713?
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HrB

---- Boris Cefer <westinghouse at iol.cz> wrote: 
> 1713 is owned by Ed Miller.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken & Tracie" <ktjosephson at earthlink.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 8:05 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?
> 
> 
> > Worthington has 1644, the 1600 at PTM is 1613 and somebody has 1713, but I
> > forget where it is.
> >
> > K.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Swindler" <j_swindler at hotmail.com>
> > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:14 AM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> > >>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > >>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > >>Subject: [PRCo] Re: Active PRCo PCCs?
> > >>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:22:13 -0500
> > >>
> > >>Jerry:
> > >>
> > >>I'm going to admit to limited intelligence in this area and leave
> > >>others fill in the blanks.   I'll start and admit that I know little
> > >>on what has happened over the last 30 odd years.
> > >>
> > >>There is a regauged and operable PRC 1400 at Seashore and it has been
> > >>there since the middle 1960s.  It looked nice when first repainted at
> > >>Seashore circa 1969 but looked pretty bad when I saw it when we took
> > >>Boris up two years ago.
> > >>
> > >
> > > 1440
> > >
> > >>I think Worthington had a Pittsburgh PCC but I have limited knowledge
> > >>of what has happened to much of their fleet other than the knowledge
> > >>that the steam types have gained control at the expense of the
> > >>trolley enthusiasts.
> > >>The restored CD&M interurban, the C&LE Red Devil, and the restored
> > >>Columbus city car have been reported in shambles.   The Kansas City
> > >>Birney was stripped so that Fort Smith, Ark. could get the electrical
> > >>and mechanical parts to restore a Fort Smith Light and Power Co.
> > >>body.   So if there is a Pittsburgh car at Worthington ... well, you
> > >>get the picture.
> > >>
> > >>There was someone else out in Ohio that had some Shaker Heights and
> > >>possibly some Pittsburgh cars.
> > >
> > > Cars to Worthington; to Northern Ohio; and to private collector
> > >
> > > And two of the 4000s went to San Francisco
> > >
> > >>
> > >>And there is our friend Ed Mitchell down in Uniontown who was
> > >>creating his own ferrous-oxide deposit.
> > >>
> > >>And you know PTM has 1138, 1467, 1614 (1799), 1711.    Did I miss
> > >>anything.   That's probably already two cars too many.    Oh, yes,
> > >>the 4000 series rebuild ... three cars too many.
> > >>
> > >
> > > 4004
> > >
> > >
> > >>In deference to PCCs, at least they can be made to run in the future,
> > >>which is more than we can say for cars built after 1970 with
> > >>electronics.   Those new LRVs in museums will simply be static
> > >>displays unless the museums have the software and computers to debug
> > >>them when the break down, and the computer chips, control cards, and
> > >>so forth.   It will not be like casting new bronze control tips to
> > >>keep a K-35 controller working.    The Birney I'm responsible for in
> > >>Manheim burnt out a resistance grid on Saturday ... I  can find a
> > >>replacement for that and keep the car running.   But a simple failure
> > >>on some of those newer cars will be a permanent failure.
> > >>
> > >>fws
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > PCCs that survived PAT scrapping and MIGHT still be around include:
> 1626,
> > > 1632, 1639, 1644, 1650, 1661, 1669, 1703, 1705, 1711, 1713, 1724, 1728,
> > > 1736, 1737, 1738, 1741, 1745, 1750, 1754, 1771, 1772, 1773, 1799/1613,
> > > 1976,
> > > 4001, 4002, 4003, 4004, 4006, 40007, 4008, 4009, 4010, 4011, and 4012
> > >
> > > plus 1138 and 1440 and 1467
> > >
> > > But as Fred says, there are others with a lot beter handle on this.
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Nov 14, 2006, at 3:45 PM, <mtoytrain at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > In as much as there are no "active" or operating PCC street Cars in
> > >> > Pittsburgh are there any of the PRC PCCs active anywhere,  Also
> > >> > what Trolley museums would one be able to find a car.  I understand
> > >> > the Heinz Museum? in downtown Pittsburgh has a refurbished car/
> > >> > Any response
> > >> > is appreciated.
> > >> >
> > >> > Jerry Matsick
> > >> > in Trackless Jacksonville
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
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