[PRCo] Re: quick reply...Ground transportation at airports..

[John Swindler]

Boston is not rail transit, Fred.  The Silver Line is a bus line.

The Blue Line has an Airport station, but it doesn't serve the airport.  A 
bus connection is required.  Same formerly applied to JFK:  a bus connection 
from the subway, despite false publicity about operating a "Train to the 
Plane".  And still not a direct connection.

Also, St. Louis serves two airports directly.  And the CTA serves both 
Midway and O'Hare directly.

And Baltimore light rail directly serves BWI.  (what is the claimed Amtrak 
connection????? - shuttle bus??)

And my first solo trips to London involved a bus connection to Heathrow from 
Hounslow West (sorry - couldn't resist).  London Transport extended the 
Piccadilly Line in about three stages to serve four (?) airport terminals 
directly.  So I've had the opportunity to experience a bus connection and a 
direct rail service to the same airport.  There's no comparison.  One is 
user friendly, the other is an aggravation.

John


>From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: quick reply...Ground transportation at airports..
>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:17:52 -0400
>
>That opens up a whole new arena.   I was only counting mainline
>railroads.   In the U. S. the only one I can think of to airports is
>SEPTA  in Philadelphia.   However, there is a connection from Dallas-
>Fort Worth to the commuter trains between the two cities.
>
>But if you want to count light rail and subways to airports:  MBTA to
>Logan in Boston, BART as you mentioned, The Green Line to the
>perimeter of LAX with a bus connection, Cleveland Rapid to the
>Cleveland Airport, the Baltimore Light  Rail to the old Friendship
>Airport, WMATA to Washington National (I know, but I don't like
>calling it Reagan) and eventually to Dulles, the Minneapolis Light
>Rail actual provides an inter-terminal shuttle, a light rail line is
>being built to SEATAC airport between Seattle and Tacoma, DART to the
>Dallas airport is on the drawing board.
>
>If you wish to go to Europe:   Geneva was building a trolley
>extension.   London Heathrow has both the Picadilly Underground and a
>railroad line to Paddington station.   The Athens, Greece airport is
>on the No. 3 metro line.  Berline-Schoenefeld airport is served by
>metro; none of the others are.  Copenhagen's airport is on the No. 2
>metro line.  Hamburg has a bus connection from two different subway
>lines.  Madrid's airport is on the No. 8 metro line.  New Castle,
>England's Tynbe Wear Metro's Green Line serves their airport.
>Nürnberg's U2 line goes to the Flughafen (flight harbor).   The
>purple subway line in Porto, Portugal goes to Aeroporto.
>
>Hannover I forgot before, it's on the S-Bahn 4 line.   (S-Bahn
>standing for commuter rail.)   Paris apparently also has an RER
>commuter line B connecting both Orley and Charles DeGaule airports
>with downtown Paris.  I also missed Vienna (Wien) before, the S Bahn
>No. 7 line services the airport.
>
>No, guys, I'm not a damned expert.  I just know where to look.
>There is a great website of world metro systems.   Open the link
>below and you can browse maps all night.   You might just wish to
>bookmark it.
>
>http://www.amadeus.net/home/new/subwaymaps/en/index.htm
>
>On Aug 27, 2007, at 7:45 PM, robert simpson wrote:
>
> > At San Francisco Airport (SFO),  the Bay Area Rapit Transit (BART)
> > now has a connection in the terminal.  Took many years and at least
> > three Voter Initiatives to get the Stupidvisors to get the point
> > that the people wanted a terminal inside the terminal - not just
> > someplace somewhat close to the outer boundary.  BART offers a
> > shuttle service to Oakland Airport but have no knowledge if this is
> > very popular with travelers.
> >
> >   Bob Simpson
> >   from California
> >
> > Derrick J Brashear <shadow at dementia.org> wrote:
> >   On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, John Swindler wrote:
> >
> >> At Gatwick, the first ground transportation one encounters is the
> >> train
> >> station. Not the rental car agencies, not the airport parking lot,
> >> not the
> >> limo and taxi service to London. And yes, besides the Gatwick
> >> Express,
> >> Southcentral trains runs about four times per hour between
> >> Brighton and
> >> Victoria. Some of this might be run-through service via Thameslink to
> >> Bedford on old Midland line out of St. Pancras. But we wanted the
> >> once an
> >> hour service to Southampton to connect with trains out of Waterloo to
> >> Bournemouth.
> >
> > In Stockholm Arlanda, "just go downstairs" and get on the train.
> >
> > Other than Arlanda Express there is only limited service but it
> > exists.
> >
> >> Manchester also has airport train service.
> >>
> >> In US, only Newark comes to mind as having a semi intercity train
> >> connection. Meaning that a people mover connection is necessary.
> >
> > Given the state of intercity rail outside the NEC no one would care
> > elsewhere anyway.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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