[PRCo] Re: quick reply...Ground transportation at airports..

Fred Schneider fwschneider at comcast.net
Tue Aug 28 09:17:24 EDT 2007


I was thinking of the Blue Line and its connection to Logan.

On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:32 AM, John Swindler wrote:

>
>
> Boston is not rail transit, Fred.  The Silver Line is a bus line.
>
> The Blue Line has an Airport station, but it doesn't serve the  
> airport.  A
> bus connection is required.  Same formerly applied to JFK:  a bus  
> connection
> from the subway, despite false publicity about operating a "Train  
> to the
> Plane".  And still not a direct connection.
>
> Also, St. Louis serves two airports directly.  And the CTA serves both
> Midway and O'Hare directly.
>
> And Baltimore light rail directly serves BWI.  (what is the claimed  
> Amtrak
> connection????? - shuttle bus??)
>
> And my first solo trips to London involved a bus connection to  
> Heathrow from
> Hounslow West (sorry - couldn't resist).  London Transport extended  
> the
> Piccadilly Line in about three stages to serve four (?) airport  
> terminals
> directly.  So I've had the opportunity to experience a bus  
> connection and a
> direct rail service to the same airport.  There's no comparison.   
> One is
> user friendly, the other is an aggravation.
>
> John
>
>
>> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: quick reply...Ground transportation at airports..
>> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:17:52 -0400
>>
>> That opens up a whole new arena.   I was only counting mainline
>> railroads.   In the U. S. the only one I can think of to airports is
>> SEPTA  in Philadelphia.   However, there is a connection from Dallas-
>> Fort Worth to the commuter trains between the two cities.
>>
>> But if you want to count light rail and subways to airports:  MBTA to
>> Logan in Boston, BART as you mentioned, The Green Line to the
>> perimeter of LAX with a bus connection, Cleveland Rapid to the
>> Cleveland Airport, the Baltimore Light  Rail to the old Friendship
>> Airport, WMATA to Washington National (I know, but I don't like
>> calling it Reagan) and eventually to Dulles, the Minneapolis Light
>> Rail actual provides an inter-terminal shuttle, a light rail line is
>> being built to SEATAC airport between Seattle and Tacoma, DART to the
>> Dallas airport is on the drawing board.
>>
>> If you wish to go to Europe:   Geneva was building a trolley
>> extension.   London Heathrow has both the Picadilly Underground and a
>> railroad line to Paddington station.   The Athens, Greece airport is
>> on the No. 3 metro line.  Berline-Schoenefeld airport is served by
>> metro; none of the others are.  Copenhagen's airport is on the No. 2
>> metro line.  Hamburg has a bus connection from two different subway
>> lines.  Madrid's airport is on the No. 8 metro line.  New Castle,
>> England's Tynbe Wear Metro's Green Line serves their airport.
>> Nürnberg's U2 line goes to the Flughafen (flight harbor).   The
>> purple subway line in Porto, Portugal goes to Aeroporto.
>>
>> Hannover I forgot before, it's on the S-Bahn 4 line.   (S-Bahn
>> standing for commuter rail.)   Paris apparently also has an RER
>> commuter line B connecting both Orley and Charles DeGaule airports
>> with downtown Paris.  I also missed Vienna (Wien) before, the S Bahn
>> No. 7 line services the airport.
>>
>> No, guys, I'm not a damned expert.  I just know where to look.
>> There is a great website of world metro systems.   Open the link
>> below and you can browse maps all night.   You might just wish to
>> bookmark it.
>>
>> http://www.amadeus.net/home/new/subwaymaps/en/index.htm
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2007, at 7:45 PM, robert simpson wrote:
>>
>>> At San Francisco Airport (SFO),  the Bay Area Rapit Transit (BART)
>>> now has a connection in the terminal.  Took many years and at least
>>> three Voter Initiatives to get the Stupidvisors to get the point
>>> that the people wanted a terminal inside the terminal - not just
>>> someplace somewhat close to the outer boundary.  BART offers a
>>> shuttle service to Oakland Airport but have no knowledge if this is
>>> very popular with travelers.
>>>
>>>   Bob Simpson
>>>   from California
>>>
>>> Derrick J Brashear <shadow at dementia.org> wrote:
>>>   On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, John Swindler wrote:
>>>
>>>> At Gatwick, the first ground transportation one encounters is the
>>>> train
>>>> station. Not the rental car agencies, not the airport parking lot,
>>>> not the
>>>> limo and taxi service to London. And yes, besides the Gatwick
>>>> Express,
>>>> Southcentral trains runs about four times per hour between
>>>> Brighton and
>>>> Victoria. Some of this might be run-through service via  
>>>> Thameslink to
>>>> Bedford on old Midland line out of St. Pancras. But we wanted the
>>>> once an
>>>> hour service to Southampton to connect with trains out of  
>>>> Waterloo to
>>>> Bournemouth.
>>>
>>> In Stockholm Arlanda, "just go downstairs" and get on the train.
>>>
>>> Other than Arlanda Express there is only limited service but it
>>> exists.
>>>
>>>> Manchester also has airport train service.
>>>>
>>>> In US, only Newark comes to mind as having a semi intercity train
>>>> connection. Meaning that a people mover connection is necessary.
>>>
>>> Given the state of intercity rail outside the NEC no one would care
>>> elsewhere anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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