[PRCo] Re: quick reply...Ground transportation at airports..

[John Swindler]

Hi Fred

Phil has mentioned several reasons not to trust anything the MBTA claims.

John



>From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: quick reply...Ground transportation at airports..
>Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:17:24 -0400
>
>I was thinking of the Blue Line and its connection to Logan.
>
>On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:32 AM, John Swindler wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Boston is not rail transit, Fred.  The Silver Line is a bus line.
> >
> > The Blue Line has an Airport station, but it doesn't serve the
> > airport.  A
> > bus connection is required.  Same formerly applied to JFK:  a bus
> > connection
> > from the subway, despite false publicity about operating a "Train
> > to the
> > Plane".  And still not a direct connection.
> >
> > Also, St. Louis serves two airports directly.  And the CTA serves both
> > Midway and O'Hare directly.
> >
> > And Baltimore light rail directly serves BWI.  (what is the claimed
> > Amtrak
> > connection????? - shuttle bus??)
> >
> > And my first solo trips to London involved a bus connection to
> > Heathrow from
> > Hounslow West (sorry - couldn't resist).  London Transport extended
> > the
> > Piccadilly Line in about three stages to serve four (?) airport
> > terminals
> > directly.  So I've had the opportunity to experience a bus
> > connection and a
> > direct rail service to the same airport.  There's no comparison.
> > One is
> > user friendly, the other is an aggravation.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> >> Reply-To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: quick reply...Ground transportation at airports..
> >> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:17:52 -0400
> >>
> >> That opens up a whole new arena.   I was only counting mainline
> >> railroads.   In the U. S. the only one I can think of to airports is
> >> SEPTA  in Philadelphia.   However, there is a connection from Dallas-
> >> Fort Worth to the commuter trains between the two cities.
> >>
> >> But if you want to count light rail and subways to airports:  MBTA to
> >> Logan in Boston, BART as you mentioned, The Green Line to the
> >> perimeter of LAX with a bus connection, Cleveland Rapid to the
> >> Cleveland Airport, the Baltimore Light  Rail to the old Friendship
> >> Airport, WMATA to Washington National (I know, but I don't like
> >> calling it Reagan) and eventually to Dulles, the Minneapolis Light
> >> Rail actual provides an inter-terminal shuttle, a light rail line is
> >> being built to SEATAC airport between Seattle and Tacoma, DART to the
> >> Dallas airport is on the drawing board.
> >>
> >> If you wish to go to Europe:   Geneva was building a trolley
> >> extension.   London Heathrow has both the Picadilly Underground and a
> >> railroad line to Paddington station.   The Athens, Greece airport is
> >> on the No. 3 metro line.  Berline-Schoenefeld airport is served by
> >> metro; none of the others are.  Copenhagen's airport is on the No. 2
> >> metro line.  Hamburg has a bus connection from two different subway
> >> lines.  Madrid's airport is on the No. 8 metro line.  New Castle,
> >> England's Tynbe Wear Metro's Green Line serves their airport.
> >> Nürnberg's U2 line goes to the Flughafen (flight harbor).   The
> >> purple subway line in Porto, Portugal goes to Aeroporto.
> >>
> >> Hannover I forgot before, it's on the S-Bahn 4 line.   (S-Bahn
> >> standing for commuter rail.)   Paris apparently also has an RER
> >> commuter line B connecting both Orley and Charles DeGaule airports
> >> with downtown Paris.  I also missed Vienna (Wien) before, the S Bahn
> >> No. 7 line services the airport.
> >>
> >> No, guys, I'm not a damned expert.  I just know where to look.
> >> There is a great website of world metro systems.   Open the link
> >> below and you can browse maps all night.   You might just wish to
> >> bookmark it.
> >>
> >> http://www.amadeus.net/home/new/subwaymaps/en/index.htm
> >>
> >> On Aug 27, 2007, at 7:45 PM, robert simpson wrote:
> >>
> >>> At San Francisco Airport (SFO),  the Bay Area Rapit Transit (BART)
> >>> now has a connection in the terminal.  Took many years and at least
> >>> three Voter Initiatives to get the Stupidvisors to get the point
> >>> that the people wanted a terminal inside the terminal - not just
> >>> someplace somewhat close to the outer boundary.  BART offers a
> >>> shuttle service to Oakland Airport but have no knowledge if this is
> >>> very popular with travelers.
> >>>
> >>>   Bob Simpson
> >>>   from California
> >>>
> >>> Derrick J Brashear <shadow at dementia.org> wrote:
> >>>   On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, John Swindler wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> At Gatwick, the first ground transportation one encounters is the
> >>>> train
> >>>> station. Not the rental car agencies, not the airport parking lot,
> >>>> not the
> >>>> limo and taxi service to London. And yes, besides the Gatwick
> >>>> Express,
> >>>> Southcentral trains runs about four times per hour between
> >>>> Brighton and
> >>>> Victoria. Some of this might be run-through service via
> >>>> Thameslink to
> >>>> Bedford on old Midland line out of St. Pancras. But we wanted the
> >>>> once an
> >>>> hour service to Southampton to connect with trains out of
> >>>> Waterloo to
> >>>> Bournemouth.
> >>>
> >>> In Stockholm Arlanda, "just go downstairs" and get on the train.
> >>>
> >>> Other than Arlanda Express there is only limited service but it
> >>> exists.
> >>>
> >>>> Manchester also has airport train service.
> >>>>
> >>>> In US, only Newark comes to mind as having a semi intercity train
> >>>> connection. Meaning that a people mover connection is necessary.
> >>>
> >>> Given the state of intercity rail outside the NEC no one would care
> >>> elsewhere anyway.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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